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 where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?

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PostSubject: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:32 pm

Question is simple guys where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year? He will have 4 rings and hella records...these are just a few from this year alone

Brady:

— 28 consecutive regular-season wins at home as a starter.

— 335 straight passes without an interception.

— 9 games with at least two touchdown passes and no interceptions.

Brady also became one of six quarterbacks (Dan Marino did it twice) to throw at least one touchdown pass in each game since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. He finished with the fifth-best passer rating in NFL history (111.0).

By the Patriots:

— Fewest turnovers (10) committed in a 16-game season.

— Fewest interceptions (5) in a season, tie, four by Brady and one by Brian Hoyer(notes).

— Eight straight games scoring 30 points or more, tying the record set in 2000 by the St. Louis Rams and tied in 2007 by the Patriots.


I have him as #3 on my list behind montana and Johnny U
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:55 pm

Assuming Brady wins the MVP and the Superbowl he will tie Montana in both rings and MVP's. Brady is better statistically and Pats look good for the future... For me Brady has to be the best even with that Superbowl loss on his resume.
He has the rings and now two historic statistical years under his belt.
If Brady ends up winning 4 or more rings I don't see how he could not be considered the best Quarterback ever.


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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:07 pm

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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:27 pm

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lmao!! I was at that game too. Giants/Farls>>>>>>Patriots/Gibs Wink
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:29 pm

As far as stats go Brady dont match up anywhere near Manning. Manning has played two more years than Brady. It really just depends on what you go by to determine your best QBs of all time. Some people determine it by team success or by individual success

Brady Career Stats

34,744 yards
261 TDs
63.6 completion rating
95.2 passer rating

Manning Career Stats

54,828 yards
399 TDs
64.9 completion rating
94.9 passer rating




My best QBs by team success
Montana
Brady
Manning
Bradshaw
Elway

My best QBs by individual success
Manning
Marino
Johnny U
Montana
Brady


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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:30 pm

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hahaha... David Tyree > the entire pats team
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:40 pm

the fact that Brady was on a team that video taped defensive signals from 00-07 disqualifies him for me.....its great what he is doing now but the fact that he was involved in that taints everything that he did prior..that 22 or so game win streak means nothing to me. the 3 super bowls means nothing to me.

think about this. he won 3 sb's while his team was taping defensive signals............and he only won by 3 in each of them. Now if u have defensive signals the game shouldnt even be close. Defensive signals are everything to a defense
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:34 am

superbowls are won by teams...not individuals...so if u want to label brady as the best ever then we need to look at his statistics...clearly manning is the better.. I would put brady as 4

manning, marino, montana, brady, then.....troy aikman.. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:53 am

WFColonel56 wrote:
the fact that Brady was on a team that video taped defensive signals from 00-07 disqualifies him for me.....its great what he is doing now but the fact that he was involved in that taints everything that he did prior..that 22 or so game win streak means nothing to me. the 3 super bowls means nothing to me.

think about this. he won 3 sb's while his team was taping defensive signals............and he only won by 3 in each of them. Now if u have defensive signals the game shouldnt even be close. Defensive signals are everything to a defense


You know they only did that for that season and even after that they won every game except for the superbowl unfortunately you can't just assume they taped the decade
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:54 am

As far as stats go you guys do realize peytons career passer rating is only 2 points higher than Brady's and Brady's might be higher after this season. Also Peyton has had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark. Brady had Deion Branch and Troy Brown.


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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:56 am

Big numbers aren't everything. Peyton might throw more td's but he throws more interceptions as well. Actually Brady now has a higher passer rating so you can't pull out the stats card anymore
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:15 pm

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LOL. I am a die hard Colts fan. I live in NH and lets say it was a great few weeks seeing my father and friends mope and complain.

For me it comes down to how many rings you have and the stats. I know it is a team game but honestly in almost every sport everyone looks if you were a winner. I love Peyton and when it is all said and done he should have all the statistical records. But I think he will probably only have one ring(d@mn Saints).

Its all a matter of opinion in which you do you value rings to stats or vice versa. All I am saying is the Pats future is bright... They are the favorites to win this year and they are only going to get better defensively. Brady should win at least one more...

Brady is no pushover for stats. He has two historic seasons and will be in top 5/10 of every QB category soon.

In short, Brady, Manning, everyone else.
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:16 pm

Pro InstinctZ wrote:
As far as stats go you guys do realize peytons career passer rating is only 2 points higher than Brady's and Brady's might be higher after this season. Also Peyton has had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark. Brady had Deion Branch and Troy Brown.


Don't forget Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Gisele
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:38 pm

if u go by who wins the most superbowls then Montana and Bradshaw are the two best QBs of all time
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PostSubject: Re: where will Brady be on your alltime list if he wins the superbowl this year?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:54 pm

[quote="PeytonMvPManning"]As far as stats go Brady dont match up anywhere near Manning. Manning has played two more years than Brady. It really just depends on what you go by to determine your best QBs of all time. Some people determine it by team success or by individual success

ummm yeah cuz manning is having a great year??? how many pick 6's is that guy gunna throw? once again the great debate brady or manning. heres my point with the exception of randy moss the patriots have always had a ehhhh WR corps. yes i know wes welker is the man but he was and IMO will always be a underated overlooked underdog WR and thats part of the draw and LOVE i have for my pats. we get it done without blockbuster tallent all over the field. simply put BRADY gets it done.

as long as brady and BB are together the PATS will always have a shot. Manning is a hell of a quarterback dont get me wrong and he will have a outstanding coaching career when he hangs up his pads. he is the definition of a on the field coach and field general. but once again BRADY GETS IT DONE!!! the job of a QB is to lead his TEAM . when it comes down to it i think that bradys legacy will not be associated w/ stats but how he conducted himself as the LEADER of his team and how the guys looked to him and always knew that no matter the score there is always a shot to get that W with him in the huddle.
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