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PostSubject: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 6:20 pm

Sounds stupid but how does awareness affect each position , particularly RBs and QBs. How can awareness affect a Running Back, unless of course he is blocking, but how can it affect when he runs as surely you are usering him so awareness doesnt matter ? Am I right here ?

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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 7:48 pm

One word and a contraction:

It doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 8:07 pm

QBs will overthrow passes less with more awareness....

Running backs will anticipate passes better while running routes, and pick up blitzes better with higher awareness.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 8:41 pm

wangtangkiki wrote:
One word and a contraction:

It doesn't.

I'd like to believe this, but there are so many passes that WRs or RBs don't even look for or reach out for - blocks where the guy just doesn't have a clue or DBs that can't follow the WR, etc. for me to believe it has no effect. I'd imagine it's something like a percentage change that X will or will not happen based on the current situation.

I haven't been playing Madden that long, so if there is some inside info or rumors you've heard, I'd love to know. It'd be great to remove that as a statistic to rate when drafting/rating players.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyWed Nov 10, 2010 9:59 pm

blood9585 wrote:
QBs will overthrow passes less with more awareness....

Running backs will anticipate passes better while running routes, and pick up blitzes better with higher awareness.

nah idk about that payton manning has 99 awareness and he still makes overthrows. If anything Awareness might effect bad snaps or where to throw the pass in traffic, but i still to hard to tell
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 1:49 am

my question would be how much does awareness ratings matter for linebackers
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 2:33 am

The biggest proof is Jason Williams.. He was a LB w/ 87 spd, but very low awareness [36 in madden 10..].. yet he was the 2nd best LB on the Cowboys.. and now that he's gone.. many people are switching away from the Cowboys because of how bad of a hit they took..

Tyvon Branch = 88 OVR.. but 75 AWR... He's a beast but 75 AWR?? Wtf.. they just have his AWR low so they have a way to increase his OVR if he ever becomes an elite player.

There are kickers like John Carney with 98 or so awareness.. It just means you've been good at your position for a while.. but no effect on the game..

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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 4:23 am

I think awarness is most seen at the d-end spot...where if ur playing zone and its a HB screen and your de goes out and cover the screen without putting contains...

other then that i dont see how awareness is any use out unless your playing against computer
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 10:14 am

Megatron_81 wrote:
I think awarness is most seen at the d-end spot...where if ur playing zone and its a HB screen and your de goes out and cover the screen without putting contains...

other then that i dont see how awareness is any use out unless your playing against computer

Yeah, I agree too.. I think that's about the only thing awareness effects.. HB Screens.. lol we agreed on something.. WTF!??!
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 10:32 am

awareness does matter when people throw at faces all game.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 10:39 am

AWR is a "filler" stat.

It only effects the overall ratings of a player. More on this later
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 10:40 am

blood9585 wrote:
QBs will overthrow passes less with more awareness....

Running backs will anticipate passes better while running routes, and pick up blitzes better with higher awareness.

Prove it.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 10:41 am

also if you have jacoby ford on a dragroute you throw it to him and sometimes he doesnt react (if you dont user ) another example.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 11:19 am

sgibs wrote:
AWR is a "filler" stat.

It only effects the overall ratings of a player. More on this later

This would lead me to the inevitable question "which other stats are just filler?" Because if you're drafting players for a franchise team you'd want to know which stats are pointless, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 1:23 pm

Megatron_81 wrote:
I think awarness is most seen at the d-end spot...where if ur playing zone and its a HB screen and your de goes out and cover the screen without putting contains...

other then that i dont see how awareness is any use out unless your playing against computer

Surely thats Play Recognition ?

These stats are all over the place - some mean something while others dont.

I agree with Black Udder's post - I would also love to know which other stats are simply fillers
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 2:36 pm

blood9585 wrote:
QBs will overthrow passes less with more awareness....

Running backs will anticipate passes better while running routes, and pick up blitzes better with higher awareness.

For qbs, that is correct, at least it was the case in previous maddens. Can't comment on rbs though

I've also noticed that your accuracy declines as you are getting rushed, this might have something to do with it as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 3:08 pm

oops double post


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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 3:08 pm

beotos wrote:
blood9585 wrote:
QBs will overthrow passes less with more awareness....

Running backs will anticipate passes better while running routes, and pick up blitzes better with higher awareness.
For qbs, that is correct, at least it was the case in previous maddens. Can't comment on rbs though

I've also noticed that your accuracy declines as you are getting rushed, this might have something to do with it as well.

Im sorry but just cuz gibs says awareness makes QBs throw less overthrows doesn't mean that it does...
Nothing against Gibs of course
but in my own judgement and experienc..

Its too hard to prove, most often qbs with high awareness have high accuracy and that is a fact. There is no way to tell if awarenss actually matters with out hearing it from Ian Cummings himself, IMO its just another "fun" rating like swager, toughness and Injury
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 6:00 pm

Awarness works the way it should, I played a game of madden earlier today and chose the packers nad stuck Al Harris in just to see what would happen and the game was great notice Harri's speed is 84 while acc is 83 and his awarness and press are 97. I played lots press durring the game and miraculously it worked. Explain to me how Harris was able to jam manningham and run up field with him stride for stride??
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 6:07 pm

because madden is a sh*t game?
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 6:10 pm

Servo wrote:
because madden is a sh*t game?

lol Manningham has 90+ spd and 90+ acc lol
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 6:51 pm

exactly,no way al should keep up with him
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 7:10 pm

Youd be shocked as how many corners that have talent and great technique are slow but can shut down recievers that run in the 4.3's ala Malcom Jenkins from Ohio State
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyThu Nov 11, 2010 7:54 pm

black udder wrote:
sgibs wrote:
AWR is a "filler" stat.

It only effects the overall ratings of a player. More on this later

This would lead me to the inevitable question "which other stats are just filler?" Because if you're drafting players for a franchise team you'd want to know which stats are pointless, right?

Gibs doesn't agree with me, but I believe Play Recognition is a filler stat.


GunfusedX wrote:
also if you have jacoby ford on a dragroute you throw it to him and sometimes he doesnt react (if you dont user ) another example.

That's why you always click on & catch.. that solves your problem Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Awareness question   Awareness question EmptyFri Nov 12, 2010 1:04 am

wangtangkiki wrote:
black udder wrote:
sgibs wrote:
AWR is a "filler" stat.

It only effects the overall ratings of a player. More on this later

This would lead me to the inevitable question "which other stats are just filler?" Because if you're drafting players for a franchise team you'd want to know which stats are pointless, right?

Gibs doesn't agree with me, but I believe Play Recognition is a filler stat.


GunfusedX wrote:
also if you have jacoby ford on a dragroute you throw it to him and sometimes he doesnt react (if you dont user ) another example.

That's why you always click on & catch.. that solves your problem Smile

don't know if i agree with you on the play recognition as a filler stat, if you run a FB dive on nmdamican suh more than three times from the same formation, eventually he is gonna swim move the center and eat that FB up
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