Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:56 pm
sgibs wrote:
Robe is coming in hot with ANOTHER setup hes been labbing up!
Getting exciteddddd
robe is good idk if it was on Defense but he was using something on me
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:56 pm
I'll have a video posted in about 15 minutes.
abdaninja
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:04 pm
robe983 wrote:
I'll have a video posted in about 15 minutes.
sounds great man i hate ur sb bunch ugh haha great stuff
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:08 pm
lol the greatest. i love that formation
abdaninja
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:13 pm
robe983 wrote:
lol the greatest. i love that formation
yes but most people use it like robots but not u and slants outs dont get open for me as much idk why ? =[ but its def great i havent even played ur whole scheme u kill me with bunch aha
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:20 pm
Here's my version of the contain blitz. I'm sorry about the video quality but hopefully you guys can figure out the setups. If you guys have any questions, let 'er rip.
Credit to Gibs, Harlem, and Maddenbible.com for finding the concept of the blitz, I just tried to beef it up a lil bit
sgibs Admin
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:41 pm
had a GIBS moment- that shits classic
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:44 pm
haha that always happens to you!... the akward, annoying, "blitz that's supposed to work" got me too...
sgibs Admin
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:55 pm
keeping it real though- what are you going to stop filming and start over?
nope- stuff doenst always work part of it all
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:57 pm
lol yea... it is fire though once you get it setup right.
Dalton Big D
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:13 pm
good stuff robe yeah ppl wouldnt never believe the number of pick they can get with the contains, they just simply make crazy plays and pick it.
LOTT0042
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:15 pm
robe983 wrote:
lol yea... it is fire though once you get it setup right.
Freaking awesome bro!!!!!
Dalton Big D
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:37 pm
GunfusedX wrote:
Dalton Big D wrote:
oh ok i see the difference now vick d is not the same as contain d...only problem is that sounds like what me and other mb baller came up with after labbing and putting it to the test, got to say that game had like at least 20 sacks
not hating here, but if your d is so good how do you lose games in c4 minors? if your d is so good play me because i havent got locked up since i cant remember. not saying im the greatest but i would love for someone to cage me.(and thats playing against top tourney players) s jack and harlem are in his crew thats why he can use their concepts. And if you came up with this why didn't you speak untill now. were about helping here not about criticizing.
i lost some games in c4 but that has nothing to do with my d now, i switched d and o playbooks and got some losses i switched back and got back on track lost to silence though in playoffs. But for c4 you got booted for not playing games and quitting a game. Im dont have a problem with anyone on this site including ninja were kool. Me and megatron used to go at it and now were lab buddies. So idk why your hating. I got this out of multiple formations different set ups for each formation. the main two me and megatron both came up with and have decided to not release it...all my stuff will be released eventually though. I got some other stuff, i will likely release pretty soon which is like my original one that i first found three weeks to a month ago, but didnt really lab it enough to have great coverage behind it, and the cards arent the best team for the blitz because of the slower des. i didnt come up with the lb stacked on the dt. Ill play you man, i know all about you, i heard your o was hell, but im not scared to lose.
gibs i didnt know you were gonna release something different, thats why i said it was harlems and sjacks. So basically harlems and sjack got theres, gibs has his, and same with robe, and me and megatron.
skiimask
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:22 pm
just wow
GunfusedX
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:55 pm
Dalton Big D wrote:
GunfusedX wrote:
Dalton Big D wrote:
oh ok i see the difference now vick d is not the same as contain d...only problem is that sounds like what me and other mb baller came up with after labbing and putting it to the test, got to say that game had like at least 20 sacks
not hating here, but if your d is so good how do you lose games in c4 minors? if your d is so good play me because i havent got locked up since i cant remember. not saying im the greatest but i would love for someone to cage me.(and thats playing against top tourney players) s jack and harlem are in his crew thats why he can use their concepts. And if you came up with this why didn't you speak untill now. were about helping here not about criticizing.
i lost some games in c4 but that has nothing to do with my d now, i switched d and o playbooks and got some losses i switched back and got back on track lost to silence though in playoffs. But for c4 you got booted for not playing games and quitting a game. Im dont have a problem with anyone on this site including ninja were kool. Me and megatron used to go at it and now were lab buddies. So idk why your hating. I got this out of multiple formations different set ups for each formation. the main two me and megatron both came up with and have decided to not release it...all my stuff will be released eventually though. I got some other stuff, i will likely release pretty soon which is like my original one that i first found three weeks to a month ago, but didnt really lab it enough to have great coverage behind it, and the cards arent the best team for the blitz because of the slower des. i didnt come up with the lb stacked on the dt. Ill play you man, i know all about you, i heard your o was hell, but im not scared to lose.
gibs i didnt know you were gonna release something different, thats why i said it was harlems and sjacks. So basically harlems and sjack got theres, gibs has his, and same with robe, and me and megatron.
jordanl95
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:18 pm
Just found this out of 3-4 normal ... Come out in any 3-4 normal zone play
1. Freeze D 2. Blitz OLB(side you wanna bring preassure from) 3. reblitz the DE on the side the preassure is coming from 4. spy the DT over center and the weakside DE 5. Contain Both MLB's
This will bring the OLB free with a confusing coverage behind with the two spies and contains... The contains do a great job at covering the flats and the spys have the middle. Just trying to contribute a little bit. Make sure you guys stay creative
mp
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:38 pm
robe983 wrote:
Here's my version of the contain blitz. I'm sorry about the video quality but hopefully you guys can figure out the setups. If you guys have any questions, let 'er rip.
Credit to Gibs, Harlem, and Maddenbible.com for finding the concept of the blitz, I just tried to beef it up a lil bit
Wow patna!!!
No question for all, I just got roasted using the Gibs contain D by someone running stick from tight doubles. What adjustments would you guys make?
GunfusedX
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:57 pm
dont run the contain d on stick run dime flat theres a play that has 2 flats and 4 deep blues.
jalapenos789
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:41 am
sh!t is dope...
Left or right.. got people reelin on O...
Sjack39
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:15 am
sgibs wrote:
Dalton Big D wrote:
Gibs didn't come up with this but yeah It's hell and everyone needs to add it to there arsenal. And yeah I agree the best part is it works in 4-6, 2-4-5, and more
That hurts deep down man lol
But I respect that.
I have been sharing this D and its setups with people for sometime now - just finally now have it down where I feel confident to share with everyone.
17:47 - " hes running something ive never seen before hes putting guys in contains"
47:20...." AHHHHHHHH its contains"
ughhh.. i swear this is why i cant and will nor play this game anymore tht was the only reason i even used the 9ers was to have lawson and willis out there
i can understand people watching the vid and figuring out what it is but for you to be in our "crew" and putting stuff out is sad.....
robe983
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:28 am
I was just tweaking what I was showed. Didn't mean to upset anybody.
anavrin78
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:05 am
SJack39 are you the same guy that goes by HankTrill on TGL?
sgibs Admin
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:16 am
Sjack39 wrote:
sgibs wrote:
Dalton Big D wrote:
Gibs didn't come up with this but yeah It's hell and everyone needs to add it to there arsenal. And yeah I agree the best part is it works in 4-6, 2-4-5, and more
That hurts deep down man lol
But I respect that.
I have been sharing this D and its setups with people for sometime now - just finally now have it down where I feel confident to share with everyone.
17:47 - " hes running something ive never seen before hes putting guys in contains"
47:20...." AHHHHHHHH its contains"
ughhh.. i swear this is why i cant and will nor play this game anymore tht was the only reason i even used the 9ers was to have lawson and willis out there
i can understand people watching the vid and figuring out what it is but for you to be in our "crew" and putting stuff out is sad.....
So we played a game. Your defense was unbelievable had never seen anything like it before. Naturally I went to the game tape and looked at it saw that you were putting your linebackers on contains. That was about it - I then hit the lab for a bit and tried to replicate it but wasnt having much luck. Then the following week I played Harlem and once again he was using the same defense so naturally I went back and i saw the same exact thing.
I then went back into practice to try and figure out how to get the pressure you guys were getting. I tried every formation but just wasnt able to get the DE free like you guys were. After a while I finally tried blitzing the DE and BINGO it was now working. I noticed that there was really no need to do both sides for the defensive concept to work. So I tried more and more formations to see which one I liked best. I use the 46 book so I tried nickel normal, dime, 46, and bear, I found that the inside blitz worked the best out of man and I also really liked how it worked out of dime flat safe deep zone. I kept tinkering with the blitz and I kept working coverages and zones behind it and ultimately put out what I felt most comfortable running.
I continued to work it and also realized that its a great way to stop Vick as well. It does a great job at containing Vick.
I can understand your frustrating if you came to me and said hey gibs this is how you do this and you want to do this. We never had that conversation. I just reviewed tape and tried to replicate what I saw and then went a step further to put my own twist on it.
I respect that you're angered by it and I respect that you don't want to play the game any longer. It's your decision entirely.
GunfusedX
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:04 am
so much hostility its christmas spirit.
LOTT0042
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Subject: Re: The Vaunted Contain D - Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:18 am
I am not judging, criticizing, and attacking anyone. Just want to be clear before I post my 2 cents. I honestly can't figure out why players get upset. Its the nature of the game -from video game football to real life. Its called parity. Zone Blitz scheme, Tampa 2, Zone Block running game, Wildcat etc. Coaches innovate and find the next best thing. When it works others will adopt it -that is why you don't see pattons on footall schemes. If I developed a scheme and saw others using it I would first be flattered. That would mean I made an impact and great contribution to our madden community. Second, that would drive me to find the next big thing which would continue to improve my game. Do you lose a little edge - certainly but the best players seem to be able to continue to innovate or take the game over with supreme stick skills.
Sjack I really hope you decide to continue to play and innovate. As a noob, I know that I value your knowledge along with the rest of our community - it helps to teach me the game. My appreciation for the tips and contributions goes beyond words. You guy's have really great football minds but also are so creative. I could not beat the computer on All-Madden. I am not ashamed to say it. But thanks to Gun - my awesome "Coach", Chad, Gibs, Robe, Wang, Megatron and so many others, I can now. I am no threat to these guys since I am not yet in that caliber, but I aspire to be. Just think, if I happen to be online and we get a game - it could be competitive rather than a slaughter. I think its more fun that way. My buddy plays the franchise mode on PRO and scores 200 points in games. I asked him why and he said he likes the stats etc. I personally would be bored because where is the challenge? At any rate sorry for the ramble but thank you all here at Madden Bible for all the tips, coaching, and labbing. You guys really go out of your way to help us noobies and I think I speak for us all when I say with the most sincerity THANK YOU!.