5 sets for Success additions

Power Run
Quick Pass Undercenter
Compressed
Bunched
Balanced/Hybrid

ok so a couple thoughts. Quick pass undrecenter doesnt seem to translate for some so i think we will change the idea behind it to REDZONE - this to me gives off a better understanding of what the formation represents. Its a formation needed for tight passing windows and short quick passes. Whats everyones feedback on that?

I also wanted to expand a bit more on the 5 sets. I have been working with Lotto recently and we both have disucssed a lot about mini schemes in addition to your FULL scheme (5 sets). The idea behind it is to find a few formations in your playbook that have a nice set of quick audibles that work well off each other. The main focus is to come out in a game and not TIP your hand. YOu run your mini schemes for as long as you can. YOu are trying to conceal your real offense so that its harder for your opponent to discover exactly what you are doing.

For a mini scheme to work you need to focus on effective plays in the game. One of the most effective quick passes in the game is the motioned C route. It is also important that your run audible down is effective. I think HB dives are the best runs in the game pound for pound if you were to choose JUST ONE RUN.

Expand your books late in the season fellas! What mini schemes can you find to freshen things up?!


This also helps to mix things up a bit and keep things fresh!

DAL BOAT Mini Schemes...

singleback jumbo - Mesh, X follow
singleback doubles - Double C routes - HB Dive
iform normal - tight draw and mesh
Gun Trips WK - screen - PA WR IN

Main Scheme
strong close
fullhouse
Gun Snugs
Gun Flip Trips
Singleback Bunch

Hey Gibs stop helping lotto thats why he's starting to kill me......

I do like the mini schemes they can really open your playbook for you. I often times find myself running plays I have never used if I get a cushy lead. Its all about experimenting and finding new ideas. I tried this with lotto the other night with my 46 bear ideas...what a dumbass...lol

ronslows10 wrote:

Hey Gibs stop helping lotto thats why he's starting to kill me......

I do like the mini schemes they can really open your playbook for you. I often times find myself running plays I have never used if I get a cushy lead. Its all about experimenting and finding new ideas. I tried this with lotto the other night with my 46 bear ideas...what a dumbass...lol

LOL Ronslows - Gibs opened the door, now I am making my own way and we are feeding off each other - him from the experience side, me from the out of the box new side Great Game Bruh! Always enjoy games with ya man!

I have switched over to CAR recently here is some mini-schemes i use, (btw i love this post! further expanding your playbook is deadly)

Twin TE= curl combo (the #1 TE is a quick throw to man, like a y shallow cross route, #2 te is a quick flat pass, motion the #1 wr across and if you read zone place him on a fade and before he sets snap and quick throw, against zone you can house this sometimes)

Twin TE= run audible is HB Dive

Spread Flex= slot cross, hb dive, wr screen have as an audible

Philly Full House= Close z-corner (smart route the corner route, and run it to whichever hash mark you are on, drag the other wr, block the HB, you have the deep corner route on loose man coverage, then the drag or flat, and a blue route)

Philly Full House audibles= Hb slam, corner strike. P.A. middle

Twin TE Flex= smash, or x-curl man, either play can be set up to beat man/zone

Twin TE Flex audibles= deep pass (this beats zone with hike throws) HB dive

Y-Trips open= Panther y-trail audibles are hb off tackle, four verticals, PA FL Corner (Pa FL corner has a weird drag route that opens up alot and you can motion #1 wr on a C-route, i motion him all the way over roll left with QB the drag is there, or the C-route in the middle of field)

Also add Flanker Drive to your Singleback Ace scheme, it can be set up to beat man/zone and Y-shallow cross is a quick audible with hb dive, and have corner strike set as an audible, you have C-routes, Flanker drive to beat zone, and Y-shallow cross for quick pass...

Main Scheme

Snugs Flipped under center
Singleback Bunch
Spread Flex
Single Back Ace
I-form Twin TE

Yea been switching back and forwarth from DALAS and HOUSTON play books, and think i'm heading back on the BOAT because of iform normal - tight draw and mesh... idk why but I just love these plays for some reason this draw is just so good, really need to lab a mini scheme around these plays... Gotta thank GIBS for the BOAT is so marvelous! lol

Love some Houston, 5 sets for success is crucial!

very crucial...it was a hard choice but think I'm just more comfortable with Dallas pb, plus just created a little mini scheme out our strong (not strong close). PA fb play is actually usable as a PA play, its qucik enough to use not like most PA plays. Chcek it out....me likely! lol

yep

=]

Great philosophy. An individual's Madden/NCAA game skills can improve overnight if you follow this.

LOTT0042 wrote:

ronslows10 wrote:

Hey Gibs stop helping lotto thats why he's starting to kill me......

I do like the mini schemes they can really open your playbook for you. I often times find myself running plays I have never used if I get a cushy lead. Its all about experimenting and finding new ideas. I tried this with lotto the other night with my 46 bear ideas...what a dumbass...lol

LOL Ronslows - Gibs opened the door, now I am making my own way and we are feeding off each other - him from the experience side, me from the out of the box new side Great Game Bruh! Always enjoy games with ya man!

So that's what you've been doin'? Been wondering where U been Lotto. Now I know!!! Getting tips from"Tha Man Himself"!!! Holla @ me when PSN comes back up!!

Slimreaper256 wrote:

LOTT0042 wrote:

ronslows10 wrote:

Hey Gibs stop helping lotto thats why he's starting to kill me......

I do like the mini schemes they can really open your playbook for you. I often times find myself running plays I have never used if I get a cushy lead. Its all about experimenting and finding new ideas. I tried this with lotto the other night with my 46 bear ideas...what a dumbass...lol

LOL Ronslows - Gibs opened the door, now I am making my own way and we are feeding off each other - him from the experience side, me from the out of the box new side Great Game Bruh! Always enjoy games with ya man!

So that's what you've been doin'? Been wondering where U been Lotto. Now I know!!! Getting tips from"Tha Man Himself"!!! Holla @ me when PSN comes back up!!

Hey Slim whats crackin my man! yeah when psn is back will definetly hit you up my friend!

working out with Gibs huh? you are sneaky Lotto.

i absolutely love the 5 formations for success concept. sure, i get away from it from time to time but i love the fact that Gibs mentioned for us to "expand" our playbook this deep into the madden season. i also like the fact that he mention "conceal" your main scheme and run a lil' mini scheme for as long as you can. awesome tip!

my problem has been that i have done the opposite. i ran my main scheme as long as i could and then once cats figured me out...that was all she wrote...smh! not anymore! i have seen the light!

Question: why do you guys prefer HB Dives over Power O's and FB Dives? my Ravens Obook has a few formations with the Power O as the run audible. if i throw a FB Dive in my audibles that gives me 2 power runs from that one formation.

~Mili

Militant X 1 wrote:

working out with Gibs huh? you are sneaky Lotto.

i absolutely love the 5 formations for success concept. sure, i get away from it from time to time but i love the fact that Gibs mentioned for us to "expand" our playbook this deep into the madden season. i also like the fact that he mention "conceal" your main scheme and run a lil' mini scheme for as long as you can. awesome tip!

my problem has been that i have done the opposite. i ran my main scheme as long as i could and then once cats figured me out...that was all she wrote...smh! not anymore! i have seen the light!

Question: why do you guys prefer HB Dives over Power O's and FB Dives? my Ravens Obook has a few formations with the Power O as the run audible. if i throw a FB Dive in my audibles that gives me 2 power runs from that one formation.

~Mili

LOL only thing sneaky about me is discussing with Gibs how i try to hide my man scheme for as long as possible We agreed that that is a valuable addition to any game plan. I think I have driven him into hiding discussing my current games wins and losses, scheme ideas and ways to improve almost daily. I am a Madden Addict. Heck I was online until 3:40am running lab games with Ninja lol. I was however up by 6:15am for work <responsible addict lol

Militant X 1 wrote:

working out with Gibs huh? you are sneaky Lotto.

i absolutely love the 5 formations for success concept. sure, i get away from it from time to time but i love the fact that Gibs mentioned for us to "expand" our playbook this deep into the madden season. i also like the fact that he mention "conceal" your main scheme and run a lil' mini scheme for as long as you can. awesome tip!

my problem has been that i have done the opposite. i ran my main scheme as long as i could and then once cats figured me out...that was all she wrote...smh! not anymore! i have seen the light!

Question: why do you guys prefer HB Dives over Power O's and FB Dives? my Ravens Obook has a few formations with the Power O as the run audible. if i throw a FB Dive in my audibles that gives me 2 power runs from that one formation.

~Mili

dont listen to them mili power o are deadly as fuhhh especially with everyones new spy run D or some sort

i love i twins power o!

LOTT0042 wrote:

Militant X 1 wrote:

working out with Gibs huh? you are sneaky Lotto.

i absolutely love the 5 formations for success concept. sure, i get away from it from time to time but i love the fact that Gibs mentioned for us to "expand" our playbook this deep into the madden season. i also like the fact that he mention "conceal" your main scheme and run a lil' mini scheme for as long as you can. awesome tip!

my problem has been that i have done the opposite. i ran my main scheme as long as i could and then once cats figured me out...that was all she wrote...smh! not anymore! i have seen the light!

Question: why do you guys prefer HB Dives over Power O's and FB Dives? my Ravens Obook has a few formations with the Power O as the run audible. if i throw a FB Dive in my audibles that gives me 2 power runs from that one formation.

~Mili

LOL only thing sneaky about me is discussing with Gibs how i try to hide my man scheme for as long as possible We agreed that that is a valuable addition to any game plan. I think I have driven him into hiding discussing my current games wins and losses, scheme ideas and ways to improve almost daily. I am a Madden Addict. Heck I was online until 3:40am running lab games with Ninja lol. I was however up by 6:15am for work <responsible addict lol

haha lotto yeah he is up and so am i lol man but i been sleeping latelyy any ways i been runing DET pb on Offense lately i love it and all but i feel liek wierd liek im always in snugs or shotty two back when i need crucial downs so i kinda do miss dallas

what are your guys opinions on each book dallas and DET

Dallas is the absolute most balanced book in game, has it all, I think that's undisputed.

A new mini scheme I used with dallas is i-form strong

1.come out in counter run play, motion the #1 wr all the way across

2. The run audible down is a run to the right, HB power O? Again motion the #1 wr across read man or zone on were you use the wr to block

3. The deep pass audible is F angle, the FB/Sub in #2 fast HB, runs an angle route that opens up against man/zone, motion the HB out to the left on a drag, and once he is 3 steps or so outside the L.O.S snap and quick throw, he gets the C-route animation burst

4. You can also come out in FL drive and set it up to beat man/zone and the auto-motion route puts the WR in motion just like the 2 run plays, mix this play in and you have 3 plays with the same look and motion but they all go in different directions....

Outside Dallas, Car ,and SF are great books but my mini schemes aren't as deep with them and i'am in snugs undercenter 60%-70% of the game lol

abdaninja wrote:

Militant X 1 wrote:

Question: why do you guys prefer HB Dives over Power O's and FB Dives? my Ravens Obook has a few formations with the Power O as the run audible. if i throw a FB Dive in my audibles that gives me 2 power runs from that one formation.

~Mili

dont listen to them mili power o are deadly as fuhhh especially with everyones new spy run D or some sort

i love i twins power o!

i think so as well Ninja.

of course, i am still rocking my Ravens Obook trying to pull out some hidden "gems" that i've been overlooking the entire season. and that I-Form: Twins Flex formation is one of them. it has the Power O (run up the middle our outside) as its run audible and when i throw that FB Dive (run middle) in my audibles along with a passing play (i.e. HB Slip Screen pass/run right)etc.) then it become a great formation to build a scheme around. i could also mix in the HB Blast (run left).

the Strong I: H Twins TE also has the Power O as its run audible. with this formation i throw in the Ravens Zone Wk play (run left).

~Mili

F Angle can be used to slide the opponent's DB out if he is in a man coverage, as well.

ZAN wrote:

F Angle can be used to slide the opponent's DB out if he is in a man coverage, as well.

^^^ Thanks Zan! I have had tremendous success with F- Angle lately...

I left the Dallas book, then have recently went back to it....

Singleback ACE

Play is Close Bench, you can use this play just like an undercenter snugs bench switch play,on the hash marks, and both WRs can be motioned out for drag routes, only thing is it has 2 TEs on the field instead of Four WRs, unless you audible down to it, from snugs......