Harrisburgh

Posts : 208 Join date : 2009-08-10

I read the AZ playbook took the tourney in Harrisburgh, I didnt see much fanfare on that book this year, I guess it still is potent in the right hands BUT that is any book actually

Posts : 326 Join date : 2010-02-18

used it last year didnt really like it this year

Posts : 208 Join date : 2009-08-10

datnodude wrote:: used it last year didnt really like it this year

Yea I loved it last year, but really didnt look at it this year

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:24 pm

There were several books being used effectively. Arizona was just one of many. Evil Ken ran Denver very well, TDavis was unstoppable out of Dallas, Lil Man ran Arizona...there was a lot of scoring going on...

...unless you were me...if you were me, you were losing games 17-14 and 21-17 because your O wasn't up to par and your defense was over-roided...

Let that be a lesson...you always need to put SOME time in on offense...I put a 90/10 split in favor of defense as far as my labbing went.

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ZAN wrote:: There were several books being used effectively. Arizona was just one of many. Evil Ken ran Denver very well, TDavis was unstoppable out of Dallas, Lil Man ran Arizona...there was a lot of scoring going on...

...unless you were me...if you were me, you were losing games 17-14 and 21-17 because your O wasn't up to par and your defense was over-roided...

Let that be a lesson...you always need to put SOME time in on offense...I put a 90/10 split in favor of defense as far as my labbing went.

You were ijn the battles Zan?

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:06 pm

Yup, prophet.

Played Marcdog in the CVC. Renegades vs. Money Team (Truth, Tyronto, Marcdog).

I was up 21-14 on Marcdog, who was said to have the toughest Vick-stick in the nation. Believe you-me, it was. However, I still sacked that man 7 times. Not an exaggeration. He couldn't stop my blitz scheme, and got rattled...he was just running around like mad with Vick. Crazy that I sacked him 7 times and didnt get a game sealing fumble. Anywho, he managed to tie the game up. I had ball at about midfield with a minute left in a tie game. He'd been 1-5-5 shaking all game, and I'd hit him for big gains with HB slip screen. This time, the shake came in and hit Rodgers as I was throwing, and caused the duck throw that his DT picked (which RARELY happens this year). His DT housed it to make it 28-21. So with 40 seconds left I start my drive to tie/win, I go down to his 6 yard line. with 15 seconds left. 3rd and goal from the 6, he runs coverage D, I have Nelson running from left to right in the endzone near the left hash. Marcdog jumps it, over-anticipating, I see it, and playmaker Nelson back to the left, and now hes 10 yards open standing on the first "E'" in "GREEN BAY" in the endzone, Rodgers throws it into the crowd for no reason. Marcdog even told me I got screwed. I took a delay of game to back it up to the 11 and give me room to throw on 4th. But Marcdog went ahead and sent 6 with BNR. None of my guys got off their bump and it was all she wrote.

The individual tournament, I lost games in less heartbreaking fashion by scores of 21-17, 17-14, won 30-14, and lost 17-14.

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:10 pm

But I played my *** off. Had several dudes there saying my D was one of the best at the tournament, despite losing more than I won. Mainly off the fact that it wasn't 46/1-5-5 shake. Tough to score on a look you haven't labbed against. People couldn't throw without throwing on the run. The heat was too real. When they ran, my newly found run D was holding guys to like 55 yards on 20 carries...

No other way to explain it other than I let myself down. My offense wasn't near the level it should have been. A grade "C" offense, with the D I ran, would have gotten me a deep run....my O was probably a "D-"

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ZAN wrote:: But I played my *** off. Had several dudes there saying my D was one of the best at the tournament, despite losing more than I won. Mainly off the fact that it wasn't 46/1-5-5 shake. Tough to score on a look you haven't labbed against. People couldn't throw without throwing on the run. The heat was too real. When they ran, my newly found run D was holding guys to like 55 yards on 20 carries...

No other way to explain it other than I let myself down. My offense wasn't near the level it should have been. A grade "C" offense, with the D I ran, would have gotten me a deep run....my O was probably a "D-"

Sounds like you had a great showing but if you are like me you'd take the Ws over great showing, I dont like close but no cigar.

GREAT JOB on giving them heck though, also GREAT JOB not having everybody elses Defense, and I know from reading your words, if you're in another tourney your offense will be more potent!

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:08 pm

Most certainly. I'll be ready next go round.

If you aren't going to tournaments you NEED TO GO! They are too fun to miss.

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I do agree they are a fun scene, I havent been since the MC stop coming to Vegas, the MC Final used to be at House of Blues, I would go watch that also.

I use to enter tp play in the Mega Bowls and MCs when they used to come to Vegas, PS2 and when xbox took over.

Its a great scene, back when The Realist, Sandman, Big Gene, Pretty Boy, Secret, Chow, Nephew, Champ, One9, Verbal, and most of those early Madden Nation guys were on the scene. When it seemed like everybody used ATL, Vick scrambling or RCs to Finnegan lol

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:04 pm

Before my time Smile

I was an NCAA player then.

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ZAN wrote:: But I played my *** off. Had several dudes there saying my D was one of the best at the tournament, despite losing more than I won. Mainly off the fact that it wasn't 46/1-5-5 shake. Tough to score on a look you haven't labbed against. People couldn't throw without throwing on the run. The heat was too real. When they ran, my newly found run D was holding guys to like 55 yards on 20 carries...

No other way to explain it other than I let myself down. My offense wasn't near the level it should have been. A grade "C" offense, with the D I ran, would have gotten me a deep run....my O was probably a "D-"

What formations did u use on defense? Not askin for schemes or plays just curious as to what formations u used on D that was so effective at Harrisburg?

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:03 pm

4-2-5 and Dime!

Posts : 386 Join date : 2010-12-25

ZAN wrote:: There were several books being used effectively. Arizona was just one of many. Evil Ken ran Denver very well, TDavis was unstoppable out of Dallas, Lil Man ran Arizona...there was a lot of scoring going on...

...unless you were me...if you were me, you were losing games 17-14 and 21-17 because your O wasn't up to par and your defense was over-roided...

Let that be a lesson...you always need to put SOME time in on offense...I put a 90/10 split in favor of defense as far as my labbing went.

sounds like it would have been alot of fun! great showing btw zan.... i think the general consensus has been this is an offensive madden so everyone puts more time in on O, and people have gotten lazy on D and run what they know or are used to and just rely on there user to get by.....

was surprised that 1-5-5 shake was still popular.....LOL (maybe offline its better, and with a great user it still can be a headache i guess)

i heard bronco heavy was being ran, was there success with people running bronco blast? i lab'd a scheme on this myself but could never get running with the QB as effective enough to use this as a scheme.... passing from bronco heavy can be highly effective if you audible down to it, streaks, slants, fade routes, and the c-route

bronco blast intrigues me because the QB runs like a HB and doesnt fumble lol

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Ah man, don't get it twisted. I'm not proud of my showing AT ALL. I played terribly on O. Lost games because I was ill-prepared on offense. My defense was WELL above par for the tournament, though.

And Evil Ken straight KILLED it out of Bronco Heavy. His Cam Newton was tough.

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ZAN wrote:: Ah man, don't get it twisted. I'm not proud of my showing AT ALL. I played terribly on O. Lost games because I was ill-prepared on offense. My defense was WELL above par for the tournament, though.

And Evil Ken straight KILLED it out of Bronco Heavy. His Cam Newton was tough.

yeah i was more so complimenting your D , playing some of the best in the country and confusing them and slowing there o"s down is a nice feat, get your O right and make a deep run next tourney!!!

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:43 pm

didn't let up a single big play all tournament...true story...

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:50 pm

Zan, so next time.. Over roid your offense, keep that d maybe find a new twist... Then your schemes should even out by HOF tourney Wink

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H'burg was definitely a great time. Did do well at all, but got some great experience outta going to an event with that much competition in it.

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arizona has the best play in the game shotgun tight zona post...

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ZAN wrote:: didn't let up a single big play all tournament...true story...

thats the key to defense limit big plays and make the offensive person make mistakes good work.

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ZAN wrote:: didn't let up a single big play all tournament...true story...

Sounds like some good stuff.

D this year is definitely all about limiting the O and making them earn every yard.

Im trying to play one of you guys on this site. I may have played one of you guys on GS but I haven't met anyone who has limited me on O.

Subject: Re: Harrisburgh Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:08 pm

Gunfused,

Ask Moe. We played in that gaunt last night. It was a straight up hell game. He did a good job being patient. My O is just terrible.

Posts : 789 Join date : 2009-12-12

offense is easy zan what PB u use ? i guess for me its opposite i cant get caged offensively always put points atleast a FG every drive . find myself in shoot out games i tend to win because i am jus better at usering when it comes down to my opponent having to facethrow and i turn my CB around for that quick pick or i jus out user my opponent on Offense thats when i usually win cause i have that upper hand

as far as defense goes bro when we played a while back it wasnt bad at all low score game

idk what has dime and 425 though i suck with 425