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no im not in one those leagues....how would i sign up for c4? i just seen eafl and the application is ridiculous..i dont have aim or any of the other stuff...I know people in top 100 are cheese, but then again there are tough lower levels..I could care less what other people think or if they agree....this was an opinion on what everyone thought the top 5 teams were and I gave my opinion and why I chose my teams and you put me on blast....its so easy to defend in zone even if you flood it..i can adjust my zones or user defend it.. I'd rather u pass short and thats just more chance for a turnover

Dont think i wouldnt play wit cards...Level 20's still arn't $hit

If you want the crown the raiders as kings YOU can...Im not...I will crown the cowboys as kings

Raiders? Raiders.

I agree with megaton, OL matters alot, the amount of times I've ran the ball with mc'fadden and ended up getting tackled by a Dline man is incredible

Megatron_81 wrote:

no im not in one those leagues....how would i sign up for c4? i just seen eafl and the application is ridiculous..i dont have aim or any of the other stuff...I know people in top 100 are cheese, but then again there are tough lower levels..I could care less what other people think or if they agree....this was an opinion on what everyone thought the top 5 teams were and I gave my opinion and why I chose my teams and you put me on blast....its so easy to defend in zone even if you flood it..i can adjust my zones or user defend it.. I'd rather u pass short and thats just more chance for a turnover

Dont think i wouldnt play wit cards...Level 20's still arn't $hit

The reason you need AIM is to get in contact with your opponents.. You play 4 games a week. You can play any opponent in any order as long as you get in 4 games a week.. 16 in the season.. AIM is kinda vital to contact people.. Most people have their PCs on at all times.. not every has their PS3/XBOX on to message people on an ineffective messaging system.. it annoys the crap outta me just because how long it takes to open up the XMB(Cross Media Bar on PS3).. Anyway, you go here to sign up: http://compete4ever.com/sign-up/

ezekjuninor wrote:

I agree with megaton, OL matters alot, the amount of times I've ran the ball with mc'fadden and ended up getting tackled by a Dline man is incredible

OL ratings hardly matter, DL ratings do matter. DL man that are great like Seymour will get off their blocks easily.. You will always get tackled by DL man with any team.. not every run will work.. It's too difficult to even try to test OL ratings because each run is different.. I did a test and on one play, EVERY TIME, the RT would get beat.. no matter his rating.. I'd put great OLman there.. nothing.. They'd get off the line.. It's impossible to test; DL is easy.. You can definitely tell that they work.. Seymour will be huge in the run game.. The best DTs will be great.. but no matter who you put against them.. they will get beat.. and those beasts will also be stopped.. by 60 OVR LG/RG and Centers.. You have to now how to run the ball against human opponents.

By the way, in C4/EAFL, all games are in All-Madden. That is the highest difficulty setting in the game..[other than sliders..] so they use it. I think there is a big difference in All-Pro and All-Madden.. It seems like wacky sh!t happens on All-Pro.. it seems like people that you can easily beat, and shouldn't even be competing with you, actually have a chance.. on All-Madden, it seems like the people that know what they are doing.. have a better scheme win.. I always do my tests on All-Madden.. and that is what I've noticed.. OLman don't matter.. DL ratings do.. Particularly Power Move/Finesse Move.. I've always felt that Block shed had more to do with how easily you could toss aside NON-OL-man players.. like TEs/RBs that are in to block.. I had a small but fast LB with low Block Shed in an online franchise.. If my opponent would block their RB, he couldn't get off the RB.. but when I sent my 85 spd LB that had great Block Shed [He was one of the Pats LBs.. can't rememb. his name], he would shove the RB out of his way.

If you wanna crown em then crown there @sses...they r who we thought they were and we let em off the hook

[quote="wangtangkiki"]

Megatron_81 wrote:

OL ratings hardly matter, DL ratings do matter. DL man that are great like Seymour will get off their blocks easily.. You will always get tackled by DL man with any team.. not every run will work.. It's too difficult to even try to test OL ratings because each run is different.. I did a test and on one play, EVERY TIME, the RT would get beat.. no matter his rating.. I'd put great OLman there.. nothing.. They'd get off the line.. It's impossible to test; DL is easy.. You can definitely tell that they work.. Seymour will be huge in the run game.. The best DTs will be great.. but no matter who you put against them.. they will get beat.. and those beasts will also be stopped.. by 60 OVR LG/RG and Centers.. You have to now how to run the ball against human opponents.

By the way, in C4/EAFL, all games are in All-Madden. That is the highest difficulty setting in the game..[other than sliders..] so they use it. I think there is a big difference in All-Pro and All-Madden.. It seems like wacky sh!t happens on All-Pro.. it seems like people that you can easily beat, and shouldn't even be competing with you, actually have a chance.. on All-Madden, it seems like the people that know what they are doing.. have a better scheme win.. I always do my tests on All-Madden.. and that is what I've noticed.. OLman don't matter.. DL ratings do.. Particularly Power Move/Finesse Move.. I've always felt that Block shed had more to do with how easily you could toss aside NON-OL-man players.. like TEs/RBs that are in to block.. I had a small but fast LB with low Block Shed in an online franchise.. If my opponent would block their RB, he couldn't get off the RB.. but when I sent my 85 spd LB that had great Block Shed [He was one of the Pats LBs.. can't rememb. his name], he would shove the RB out of his way.

OL do matter...your biased by testing OL with raiders against seymore...seymore is one of the best DL in the game and has been for a while and no one on the raiders OL is gonna block him....I play with the giants and titans and when i play raiders, seymore may get me once or twice in the backfield the whole game...If i played raiders with cardinals, then he is constantly in my backfield..

All- madden wont affect me and I do play all madden in unranked games...the only thing I hold against it is that it takes away from user abilities...which means that my opponent can depend on the computer making the play for him where as in All-pro he would have to make the play...I hate depending on the computer to make plays for me and I caint stand when im losing to someone when its the computer making all the plays..

after seeing the update (no order)

1. Packers-only thing negative is their RB core. Cbs could be faster but theyre good enough. Rogers is a beast and those Wr's are nice

2. Raiders-speed enough said. I havent really fumbled with DMac in a while. A qb thats not named Jamarcus, no sh!t Im going with Oakland lol.

3. Giants- Webster is highly underrated at CB. Jacobs is out of this world lol, Eli is awesome in this game now lol. Nice Dline. Pierre Paul has potential. Oh btw my old psychology teacher is related to Corey Webster lol

4. Eagles- WR's, mccoy is awesome, Vick plays better on madden than in real life lol. Samuel is my madden top 5 cb lol, Cole whose 90+ overall and 84 speed is a nice assett to that d line

5. Steelers- (not because theyre my nfl team lol). Only thing really bad about them is cb's not named Ike Taylor are putrid. Clark could be faster but thats why I user him lol.

I love using the steelers, but mcfadden is killing me, there my real life team as well offense is better then raiders, but the cb's besides ike taylor do suck to slow if clark had like 89 speed that would be helpful too.




Thanks,



haseo15

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

OL ratings hardly matter, DL ratings do matter. DL man that are great like Seymour will get off their blocks easily.. You will always get tackled by DL man with any team.. not every run will work.. It's too difficult to even try to test OL ratings because each run is different.. I did a test and on one play, EVERY TIME, the RT would get beat.. no matter his rating.. I'd put great OLman there.. nothing.. They'd get off the line.. It's impossible to test; DL is easy.. You can definitely tell that they work.. Seymour will be huge in the run game.. The best DTs will be great.. but no matter who you put against them.. they will get beat.. and those beasts will also be stopped.. by 60 OVR LG/RG and Centers.. You have to now how to run the ball against human opponents.

By the way, in C4/EAFL, all games are in All-Madden. That is the highest difficulty setting in the game..[other than sliders..] so they use it. I think there is a big difference in All-Pro and All-Madden.. It seems like wacky sh!t happens on All-Pro.. it seems like people that you can easily beat, and shouldn't even be competing with you, actually have a chance.. on All-Madden, it seems like the people that know what they are doing.. have a better scheme win.. I always do my tests on All-Madden.. and that is what I've noticed.. OLman don't matter.. DL ratings do.. Particularly Power Move/Finesse Move.. I've always felt that Block shed had more to do with how easily you could toss aside NON-OL-man players.. like TEs/RBs that are in to block.. I had a small but fast LB with low Block Shed in an online franchise.. If my opponent would block their RB, he couldn't get off the RB.. but when I sent my 85 spd LB that had great Block Shed [He was one of the Pats LBs.. can't rememb. his name], he would shove the RB out of his way.

OL do matter...your biased by testing OL with raiders against seymore...seymore is one of the best DL in the game and has been for a while and no one on the raiders OL is gonna block him....I play with the giants and titans and when i play raiders, seymore may get me once or twice in the backfield the whole game...If i played raiders with cardinals, then he is constantly in my backfield..

All- madden wont affect me and I do play all madden in unranked games...the only thing I hold against it is that it takes away from user abilities...which means that my opponent can depend on the computer making the play for him where as in All-pro he would have to make the play...I hate depending on the computer to make plays for me and I caint stand when im losing to someone when its the computer making all the plays..

Actually I didn't use the Raiders OL to block Seymour.. I edited players from the Broncos OL & the Raiders DL. I had "DE a" "DT a" "DT b" DE b" all go vs. a top notch OL that had all 99 in all categories of blocking.. Each subject had 70 or 75 speed / acc / agi ; I don't remember that for sure. I tried running plays with the awesome DL.. every time, the RT would be beaten on a certain run play [I can't remember for sure, I believe it was a stretch play..] So I put in the terrible OL.. [60 OVR.. aka Broncos backups..] The exact same results.. The same person got off every time.. no matter the rating of the OL.. the same person was beat EVERYTIME.. I actually believe it was Strong Close - Off-Tackle now that I remember.. I couldn't get a different result no matter what I did.. Try to test run blocking on All-Madden.. it's nearly impossible.

I do my testing in practice mode like most people.. well there will also be times where you'll do a run.. and the DL men get off 100%.. I have a Why Madden 11 Fails video about it.. Practice mode isn't the best place to test things.. I'm going to test it further in a Play Now game with 2 controllers.. but no.. OL doesn't matter at all.. I consistently get 100 yd games with the Raiders, WHY? They have a shitty OL.. something like the 30th worst in the game.. yet I do great with McFadden.. The RB & what running plays you call are what matters, not your OL..


I have no idea what you are talking about when you say that you can rely on the CPU on All-Madden.. All-Pro is just easier.. Yeah maybe the CPU may make more plays, but you need to adjust to that.. It's not like your opponent has an advantage.. Fumbles are random, but the more you take chances, the more you may force a fumble.. In C4/EAFL, the people that win the Super Bowl are the people that have great schemes.. it's not just the CPU making plays for them.. You'll notice that the great players will win a Super Bowl with a decent team.. then have the 32nd pick.. they will still make it to the playoffs because of how good they are.. and how well they can adapt their scheme to the team they use. They consistently get crappy OL teams.. They almost have to.. you get the bottom of the barrel because of where you pick. It's a lot easier to win with a team like the Raiders, yet the best players make the playoffs with teams like the Rams/Cardinals/Browns..







By the way, my top 12 teams.. Mix between teams that are great solely because of offense [Titans/Vikings/Saints] and Balanced teams [Raiders/Broncos/Lions/Panthers/Ravens/Bears]

1. Raiders
2. Cowboys
3. Vikings
4. Titans
5. Saints
6. Broncos
7. Lions
8. Panthers
9. Eagles
10. Ravens
11. Texans
12. Bears

Oline ratings are very pointless...the only thing I look for on ol is a pulling guard... bruce campbell...looks like the best so there oline is fine for me. A good overall for oline is not going to stop a nano, they may recover if you block an extra guy or its not a fast nano if they have good acceleration. The only real problem in run is if a good dline sheds a block, and the good ones will alot of the time anyway no matter who is blocking. In pass games quick passes make the oline not matter at all, and on longer passes if it is not a nano you should have time, and if it is i will take a quicker lower overall oline over a better overall oline in the change that they can recover.

when people send 1 man rush on a coverage d against the raiders they get through kinda easy there ol is soft .

I like the Broncos: Wr royal, thomas, loyd-pkg champ to run a couple of drags. Kyle is accurate, Oline is solid. On defense i put dumervil and Moss as my de's, williams, woodyard, and ayers as my lbs, my cover guys all have 90 plus speed, at safety dawkins and bruton i try and use him as my blitzer/ 5th cover guy.

GunfusedX wrote:

when people send 1 man rush on a coverage d against the raiders they get through kinda easy there ol is soft .

EXACTLY!!! caint do that against a good oline! I love it when people try to run against me and they have raiders.... other than draws, runs will get ate up...I just love it..makes me laugh

ive played the Raiders an awful lot over the past few weeks and can say its unfair how *madden* good that team is

Speed everywhere (their safetys are faster than most corners!)

Aso just locks down your best wr and their wrs just out run everybody

Charles Woodson never looked so medicore until I play the oakland

I like the Lions

Matt Staffords not bad once you get used to him.
Jahvid Best is unreal. Something like 96 speed, 97 agi, 97 acc. One of the best RBs in the game IMO.
Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the game other than maybe Desean Jackson depending on how you play. Makes a nice last option on a slant out or a streak to user if no one else is open.
Burleson and logan are 93 and 94 speed with good acceleration.
Scheffler is 6'5 with 82 speed and good jump Pettigrew is a real good blocker that I like to put at FB.
Left side of the OLine is pretty good too

Good speed at DE and LB
Avril is 80 (88 acc), Palmer is 80 (88? acc), Peterson 84 (87 acc), Levy 83 (87 acc)

Good DTs
Suh is a 86 with 95 strength and 93 block shed and will keep going up with updates
Corey Williams KVB and Sammie Lee Hill have around 85-90 sterngth and around 85 block shed.. Corey Williams got a good get off too

93, 90, and 94 speed at CB is pretty good

Delmas is nice at FS speed and can tackle and I'll usually sub in one of the better tackling CBs at SS.

Defense isn't great, especially vs the run, but it definitely gets me by and the offense is real nice

bsox662 wrote:

I like the Broncos: Wr royal, thomas, loyd-pkg champ to run a couple of drags. Kyle is accurate, Oline is solid. On defense i put dumervil and Moss as my de's, williams, woodyard, and ayers as my lbs, my cover guys all have 90 plus speed, at safety dawkins and bruton i try and use him as my blitzer/ 5th cover guy.

I do my thing a little differently with the Broncos. but they are great on offense and defense.. The ONE FLAW.. RB.. Moreno can work.. but he's just terrible.. DL is also a flaw if you just send 4 & hope for pressure.. I use my LBs/CBs & blitz..

Orton very accurate
4 WRs with distinct qualities..
1. Demaryius Thomas - Best WR of the bunch.. He's 6'3".. has 96 speed 92 acc.. not high CIT.. 70~ or so.. but he's a BEAST.. If you can user catch, he's dominant..
2. Eddie Royal - He's fast.. 95 speed 98 accel.. He's short, but fast.. You always need a speed guy on your team.. The Broncos have 2 on O..
3. Eric Decker - I'd say Decker/Lloyd are tied for 3rd right now.. Decker has 86 CIT... 6'3" 86 or 87 speed/acc, not the fastest, but you can RC anything.. and you can get drilled & catch it.
4. Brandon Lloyd - Pretty ironic that the league's 2nd best WR currently [1st in yds.. but Megatron is incredible] isn't even 1st on his OWN TEAM. He's 6'0" not good height.. 90 speed, 92 or 93 acc.. great for me. I love that he now has some speed.. He has like 92 route running.. it matters vs. low mcv CBs.. I have videos to prove it.. anyway, he has 96 spec catch.. which I believe SHOULD BE 99 after his 1 handed back shoulder catch for a TD vs. 49ers Sunday.. It's kinda weird that he doesn't have high CIT yet he's yet to drop a pass thrown at him.. [He hadn't dropped a pass prior to the 49ers game.. I didn't get to see the whole thing so I don't know if he dropped a pass..]

Megatron_81 wrote:

GunfusedX wrote:

when people send 1 man rush on a coverage d against the raiders they get through kinda easy there ol is soft .

EXACTLY!!! caint do that against a good oline! I love it when people try to run against me and they have raiders.... other than draws, runs will get ate up...I just love it..makes me laugh

How about responding to Dalton's post? What he said is the TRUTH about Madden's offensive line ratings.. His post explains EXACTLY what the offensive line in M11 is..

I will quote it so you don't miss it:

Dalton Big D wrote:

Oline ratings are very pointless...the only thing I look for on ol is a pulling guard... bruce campbell...looks like the best so there oline is fine for me. A good overall for oline is not going to stop a nano, they may recover if you block an extra guy or its not a fast nano if they have good acceleration. The only real problem in run is if a good dline sheds a block, and the good ones will alot of the time anyway no matter who is blocking. In pass games quick passes make the oline not matter at all, and on longer passes if it is not a nano you should have time, and if it is i will take a quicker lower overall oline over a better overall oline in the change that they can recover.

GunfusedX wrote:

when people send 1 man rush on a coverage d against the raiders they get through kinda easy there ol is soft .

I've never really experienced this issue.. I just move around if a DE/DT gets in.. Also, most people when they do *** D, they will leave in their BEST defensive lineman.. like I do.. If I do a *** D, I'll leave in Richard Seymour.. He will power move off of every offensive lineman, but one will be there to get him.. he may get off but by the time one DE/DT has power moved through my OL, I've either thrown the ball away, completed a pass, or thrown a pick [LOL I do stupid sh!t against f@g D like most others..]

hmm...first I would just like to say I rather run it up the gut then to do tosses or stretch plays. Sooo when i play with giants, I hardly have a difficult time against richard seymour or henderson. when i play with cardinals or lions, I get ate up just bout all the time by them.

so by my experiences I assume a good defender will eventually blockshed any lineman. But the better the olineman, the longer it takes...therefore ratings do matter. Thank you come again.

I run the ball generally in the direction of the strength of the offensive line. with giants its the center and right guard, so run inside right behind them. I dont have any problem running straight at richard seymour..

Only teams in the game i have trouble running against is ravens, vikes.

I have always said that speed is not the most important aspect in madden and I'll forever believe that.

Megatron_81 wrote:

hmm...first I would just like to say I rather run it up the gut then to do tosses or stretch plays. Sooo when i play with giants, I hardly have a difficult time against richard seymour or henderson. when i play with cardinals or lions, I get ate up just bout all the time by them.

so by my experiences I assume a good defender will eventually blockshed any lineman. But the better the olineman, the longer it takes...therefore ratings do matter. Thank you come again.

I don't believe that.. You'll see it multiple times a game.. If a player is "destined" to get off their block on that play, what will happen is they will have some random animation that sheds the block.. but what you will also see is sometimes two or three people will do the SAME animation at the SAME time.. no matter the ratings.. Will a better OLman stop a nano? No.. I've played against the Saints.. my nanos still work..

Megatron_81 wrote:

I run the ball generally in the direction of the strength of the offensive line. with giants its the center and right guard, so run inside right behind them. I dont have any problem running straight at richard seymour..

Only teams in the game i have trouble running against is ravens, vikes.

I have always said that speed is not the most important aspect in madden and I'll forever believe that.

I run based on where the defense is weak.. I go by numbers.. I don't care what lineman is better ranked.. because it doesn't matter.. You'll notice on zone runs, there will be double teams.. No matter how good the player is.. he will always double team one defender then move on to the next level.. The only thing that makes or breaks if the offensive lineman makes a successful block is where the LB he is going for is heading.. Once one of the OL peel off his double team, he goes to the next lvl to attack a LB.. well if the LB is not in reach, a better rating won't help him get in better position.. All offensive lineman do that stupid thing where they will run and chase one blocker if they are out of position.. not try to get back into better position..

You may forever believe that speed isn't the most important aspect, but as you will see in this spreadsheet, for some reason, the FASTEST team in the game has the highest overall position rank in the past two seasons of the C4 league.. I know that in EAFL, last season, the Raiders were picked 1st..

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Avm21nwnDRi9dHpuREVzc2REelFtWFVmVkNpUU1kVWc&hl=en&output=html

Fastest team OVR ranked #1 by draft position in C4..
Fastest or 2nd fastest defense OVR ranked #2 by draft position in C4..

3rd was Steelers.. Raydaar picked them #1 ovr for some dumbass reason.. and VaBeach picked them 6th because he's a homer..

4th: Cowboys.. Another speed based team..
5th: Saints.. One of the fastest offenses in the game..

Dalton, ive played you alot, i didn't expect u of all people to say that Ol ratings are pointless...
Lats time we played, i had 100 rushing yards with the cow boys and u had -11 rushing yards with the raiders, i think that means something

I'm in the process of editing the video of the one games gibs has lost since he's been doing the Saturday Madden Sessions In that game, we both used the Raiders.. The Raiders have a poor OL, but a great DL.. I have 165 yds rushing.. I'll post the video in this thread but make a new topic.. I'm going to probably edit the loss I had too because of how embarrassing it was and it's unfair

O line ratings do matter, just go play with the jets, you can feel the difference. For pass blocking im not really sure it makes that much of a difference, for run blocking it does....... im absolutely sure of it.

jordanl95 wrote:

O line ratings do matter, just go play with the jets, you can feel the difference. For pass blocking im not really sure it makes that much of a difference, for run blocking it does....... im absolutely sure of it.

Explain why I was able to gain 165 yds rushing on Sgibs with the Raiders vs Raiders? Raiders have a poor OL but great DL.. You can watch the blocking.. They hold up their blocks easily..

ok ezek first of all im like 50-6 againist you, weird how after you play gibs you can win three games straight even tho they were all close but you run gibs o for arz and farls o its like a combined mix of what each them do well in it. you got there stuff down. we'll have to call you zibs. but the first game we played i had 6 for 66 in third quarter rushings not sure what the final was like 8 for 80 im guessing also just played mtf5 had 4 for 87. all runs around 20 each time. i run situational that is the best strategy for this year, draw for coverage d, or dime formation. a pitch for a loaded box.

the second game i run a run d that i was comfortable with the first drive when you had like 45 yards. the rest of the game i locked up in the backfield many times, you also got a pick when i was down by four so i stopped playing and i was going to quit because i had to leave to go to the gym thought that would be dumb so i let the cpu play on d when you got the rest of your yards.

-11? my rush yards were that low had mc fadden 3 rushes for 10, you had a 15 yard sack tho but i got a td the next play. thats why it was low. my o wasnt as good either just switched to sf havent labbed enough my hike throws were working but better create a scheme and labbed some d for you zibs lol ill destroy you like i used to.