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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: If you were told you had 3 years to... Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| win a super bowl and you were the head coach. Fill these slots
Offensive Coordinator- Defensive Coordinator-
QB- RB- WR- WR- TE-
DE- (OLB if 3-4) MLB- CB- SS-
Offensive Coordinator-Josh McDaniels Defensive Coordinator- Lovie Smith
QB-Jay Cutler RB- Shady McCoy WR-Hakeem Nicks WR-Dez Bryant TE-Jason Witten
DE-Demarcus Ware MLB-Taylor Mays CB-Brent Grimes CB-Ashante Samuel FS-DeAngelo Hall
Yes it may be weird, but Smith would be running a Cover 2 Base. With Grimes leaping and Samuel readings, i could play a depth version of cover 2. It was tough not choosing Hall at CB because his reaction time is unbelievable. But Hall can tackle better and is a lot faster playing that back half. My MLB will be dropping a lot more deeper then usual, and with Mays LB skills and sideline to sideline speed, he's PERFECT for my MLB. Ware is the best rusher in the league still to this day and is the best in run support as well. May not have the best speed at CB, but i'm C2 so im good.
Now on offense, Cutler and that arm and time to grow with this spread offense, i need a RB who can run routes. It sucks that Bush is always hurt or i would have chosen him, but McCoy is just as good as what McDaniels would like to do. He will run when i need him to and can actually run routes out of the backfield and flank. Nicks is unstoppable and Dez will be just as well. Throw the ball downfield like Cutler does, and watch them jump and go get it. Jason Witten for that security blanket and is the smartest TE i know in the run and pass game when it comes to blocking.
I'd actually like to see some realistic things here. Not just
Peyton Manning Adrian Peterson Andre Johnson Calvin Johnson Antonio Gates
Come on, put some thought into this.
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WFColonel56
Posts : 1729 Join date : 2010-01-25 Age : 31 Location : Roanoke, VA / Greensboro, NC
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Pats Defensive Coordinator- Jim Johnson
QB- Ryan RB- Turner WR- Roddy White WR- Buriss TE-dude from Jax (his name slips me aat this time)
DE-Peppers MLB- Loften CB- the GB tandom SS- Reed
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Tru Statement
Posts : 241 Join date : 2010-11-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:53 pm | |
| Head Coach - Fire me, hire Bill Belichick Offensive Coordinator- Josh McDaniels Defensive Coordinator- Steve Spagnuolo
QB- Tom Brady RB- Steven Jackson or MJD WR- Calvin Johnson WR- Wes Welker or Steve Smith (NYG) TE- Heath Miller
DT- Haloti Ngata DE- DeMarcus Ware MLB- Patrick Willis CB- Terrell Thomas SS- Adrian Wilson
That said you're not winning anything without a solid OLine and/or DLine at the very least and I cant put much thought into something where and offensive and defensive line aren't included considering entire offenses and defenses can be schemed around their strengths and weaknesses.
Anyway, Tom Brady is elite and at the very worst he's very good. Steven Jackson and MJD are both very good runners that could provide a power running game but they're also significant receiving threats which is useful as Brady likes to throw to his backs. Calvin Johnson is a better version of Randy Moss who will also do more in the offense and be a great threat deep to open up things underneath and in the running game. Welker or Smith are solid route running guys great at finding the hole in zones and moving the chains. Heath Miller is a fantastic blocker at the tight end spot so he'd also be useful in any style running game. He's also a good receiver (and one of the most underutilized ones). Brady would make him look like a star. The offense would be extremely balanced and capable of doing anything depending on what the defense gives them.
Defensively everything starts up front. Haloti Ngata is amazing vs the run and pass and he'd be even more dominant in a 4-3. Ngata taking on blockers for Willis is just scary in the run game. Adrian Wilson is also fantastic in run support. Terrell Thomas is very good all around corner. I wasn't really sure who to pick here. I want someone who can tackle well because even if they allow a catch underneath in Spags' scheme there may not always be help over the top on their side. I want someone who can play man press and off man well vs anyone. I think Thomas could do that. Adrian Wilson is a fantastic blitzing safety, maybe the best in the NFL (arguable Polamalu), again fitting into Spags' aggressive 4-3. I debated who I would want here and almost put Freeny but chose Ware instead for his versatility. Ware can pretty much beat any tackle in the NFL around the corner. The thing is the QBs can often step up in the pocket. With Ngata pushing the pocket there will be no where for the QB to step up and Ware can wreak havoc.
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| Offensive coordinator- Sean Payton Defensive coordinator- Zimmerman ( cincy's D coordinator ) Qb- slim rothlesthberger Hb- Deangelo williams Wr- Kenny Britt Wr- Calvin Johnson Te- Mercedes Lewis ( jax te who the colonel caint remember haha ) De- Peppers Mlb- Brian Urlacher Cb- Quentin Jammer Cb- Leon Hall Fs- Antrolle rolle Ss- Adrian Wilson First I just want to agree with Tru..the success of the team lies in the trenches.. oline and dline. Offensively the most important position is the qb. Big Ben is smart, hard to bring down, tough, and a proven winner. Even tho williams is on IR, I'd take him over 95% of the RB in the league. He is great handling the ball, quick, good vision, elusive, and has the break away speed. With Britt and Megatron as my receivers, gives Ben two monster leapers that will catch over any db. Lewis provides a excellent run blocker and a great pass catcher, with a 6-6 frame provides another big target. Height > Speed.. With Sean Payton as OC the possiblities are limitless. Defensively I need that stud end. Peppers is almost perfect against the run or pass, he is one of the few elite De/OLB in the league. Urlacher is perhaps a top 5 MLB, he will be the qb of the defense. Lean Hall and quinton Jammer are great man coverage and zone coverage corners and will be flexible. Rolle and Wilson are dominant Safties that held together the Cardinals defense that went to the superbowl. Zimmerman is one of the better unknown defensive minded coordinators in the game. He was the cowboys D coordinator when the cowboys had a feared defense few years ago. He has done a great job with the bengals as well. | |
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WhenInD0UBT
Posts : 20 Join date : 2010-12-18 Age : 33 Location : Plymouth State University
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:09 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Sean Payton Defensive Coordinator- Dick LeBeau
QB-Tom Brady RB- Jamaal Charles WR-Larry Fitzgerald WR-Wes Welker TE-Jason Witten
DE- Trent Cole MLB- Jerod Mayo CB- nnamdi asomugha CB-Devin Mccourty S- Troy Polamalu
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ZackMc72
Posts : 128 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 31 Location : Columbus, Ohio
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:47 am | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Peyton Manning Defensive Coordinator- Rex and Rob Ryan QB- Terrelle Pryor RB- Peyton Hillis WR- AJ Green WR- Justin Blackmon TE- Ben Watson DE- (OLB if 3-4) Clay Matthews MLB- Greg Jones CB- Joe Haden SS- TJ Ward | |
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suicide-manual
Posts : 198 Join date : 2010-08-22 Age : 34 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:54 am | |
| Head Coach - Sean Payton Offensive Coordinator- Cam Cameron Defensive Coordinator- Mike Nolan
QB- Michael Vick RB- Chris Johnson or Deangelo Williams WR- Brandon Marshall WR- Dez Bryant TE- Vernon Davis
DT- Haloti Ngata DE- Cameron Wake MLB- Karlos Dansby CB- Vontae Davis, Darelle Revis FS Antrell Rolle SS Ed Reed
High Octane offense, with an attacking defense | |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:13 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Mike Martz (assuming I have a solid OL) Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan QB- Mike Vick (if Martz's 7 step drop fails, good luck stopping his ability to improvise while having 3 WRs stretching the field) RB- Ray Rice WR- Reggie Wayne (precise) WR- Hines Ward (again, Martz teaches precision) WR (added a third WR since Martz doesn't go 2-2-1 sets)- Jeremy Maclin (gotta have 1 burner) TE- Brandon Manumaleuna (Martz doesn't utilize the TE, so might as well take the best blocking TE in the league) OLBs- Cameron Wake, DeMarcus Ware MLB- Lawrence Timmons, James Farrior (if it ain't broke, don't fix it CB- Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, Brent Grimes (only reason I didn't choose Woodson is that he won't be around in 3 years) NB (since Rex likes blitzing the nickel)- Aaron Ross (VERY GOOD at pass rushing) FS- Nick Collins SS- Tyvon Branch DE- Haloti Ngata, Matt Toeina (yes, Matt Toeina...most underated DL in the league, as far as eating up double teams, goes) DT- Vince Wilfork Sorry, doesn't get any better than this! | |
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SaintsG0Marchin'In
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-11-18
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:19 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Charlie Weis Defensive Coordinator- Gregg Williams
QB- Philip Rivers RB- Jamaal Charles WR- Calvin Johnson Jr. WR- Brandon Marshall TE- Dallas Clark
DE's- Mario Williams/Julius Peppers OLB's- Clay Mathews/Cameron Wake MLB- Patrick Willis CB's- Nnamdi Asomugha/Champ Bailey SS- Troy Polamalu | |
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CookieMonsta
Posts : 231 Join date : 2010-01-19
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:33 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Bill O'Brian Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Tom Brady RB- Lesean McCoy WR- Reggie Wayne WR- Wes Welker WR - Calvin Johnson Jr. TE- Jason Witten
DE's- Haloti Ngata/Richard Seymour DT - Vince Wilfork OLB's- Clay Matthews/Demarcus Ware MLB- Patrick Willis, Jerod Mayo CB's- Nnamdi Asomugha/Devin McCourty FS - Nick Collins SS - Troy Polamalu
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Tru Statement
Posts : 241 Join date : 2010-11-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:20 pm | |
| - ZAN wrote:
- Offensive Coordinator- Mike Martz (assuming I have a solid OL)
Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Mike Vick (if Martz's 7 step drop fails, good luck stopping his ability to improvise while having 3 WRs stretching the field) RB- Ray Rice WR- Reggie Wayne (precise) WR- Hines Ward (again, Martz teaches precision) WR (added a third WR since Martz doesn't go 2-2-1 sets)- Jeremy Maclin (gotta have 1 burner) TE- Brandon Manumaleuna (Martz doesn't utilize the TE, so might as well take the best blocking TE in the league)
OLBs- Cameron Wake, DeMarcus Ware MLB- Lawrence Timmons, James Farrior (if it ain't broke, don't fix it CB- Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, Brent Grimes (only reason I didn't choose Woodson is that he won't be around in 3 years) NB (since Rex likes blitzing the nickel)- Aaron Ross (VERY GOOD at pass rushing) FS- Nick Collins SS- Tyvon Branch DE- Haloti Ngata, Matt Toeina (yes, Matt Toeina...most underated DL in the league, as far as eating up double teams, goes) DT- Vince Wilfork
Sorry, doesn't get any better than this! You really don't want Aaron Ross. Like really really don't want Aaron Ross. He's occasionally a decent rusher but its because he's unaccounted for, he's really not that good. Terrell Thomas is better than Ross in every single aspect of the game, pass rushing included. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwE4G3HVIhU&feature=related#t=2m28s Theres Aaron Ross for you. I linked it to the specific part. Not to live in the past but if he does his job on that play I'd say theres a significant chance the Giants win that game. He's a moron. Thats not the only time its happened but its the most significant and the easiest one to find. | |
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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:52 pm | |
| Wow great teams guys. The reason why i left out offensive lines because i just felt it's to much to account. Not everyone watches a LT, LG, C, RG, RT and see's what their specialties are and what not. So far i still 1. Ant1010 2. Zan 3. Megatron 4. Tru Statement. | |
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MisterMazin
Posts : 365 Join date : 2010-12-10
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:23 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Belichick Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Josh Freeman RB- Ray Rice WR- Dez Bryant, Maclin, Mike Williams TE- Witten
OLBs- DeMarcus Ware, James Harrison MLB- Jonathan Beason, Lawrence Timmons CB- Aquib Talib, Rodgers-Cromartie FS- Jarius Byrd SS- Eric Berry DE- Haloti Ngata, Julius Peppers DT- Suh | |
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Tru Statement
Posts : 241 Join date : 2010-11-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:45 pm | |
| - Boldin wrote:
- Offensive Coordinator- Belichick
Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Josh Freeman RB- Ray Rice WR- Dez Bryant, Maclin, Mike Williams TE- Witten
OLBs- DeMarcus Ware, James Harrison MLB- Jonathan Beason, Lawrence Timmons CB- Aquib Talib, Rodgers-Cromartie FS- Jarius Byrd SS- Eric Berry DE- Haloti Ngata, Julius Peppers DT- Suh More of a madden guy than a football guy, eh? (no disrespect) If you were running a 3-4 Peppers doesn't really fit at DE and Suh doesn't really fit at NT. I also highly doubt Rex's style and Belichicks style would fit together well. And BB is a defensive guy, not an offensive guy. He's so good a coach I think he'd be fine as an offensive coordinator but he's known for his defense, not his offense. | |
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blood9585
Posts : 188 Join date : 2009-08-27 Age : 38 Location : Takoma Park, Maryland
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:23 pm | |
| Offensive Coordinator- Mike Martz Defensive Coordinator- Dick LeBeau
QB- Sam Bradford RB- Chris Johnson WR- Larry Fitzgerald, Wes Welker, Devin Hester TE- Kellen Winslow Jr.
DT- Shaun Rogers DE- Haloti Ngata, Darnell Dockett OLB- Cameron Wake, Demarcus Ware MLB- Patrick Willis, Jon Beason CB- Darrelle Revis, Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, Asante Samuel FS- Laron Landry SS- Troy Polamalu | |
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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:07 pm | |
| - Tru Statement wrote:
- Boldin wrote:
- Offensive Coordinator- Belichick
Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Josh Freeman RB- Ray Rice WR- Dez Bryant, Maclin, Mike Williams TE- Witten
OLBs- DeMarcus Ware, James Harrison MLB- Jonathan Beason, Lawrence Timmons CB- Aquib Talib, Rodgers-Cromartie FS- Jarius Byrd SS- Eric Berry DE- Haloti Ngata, Julius Peppers DT- Suh More of a madden guy than a football guy, eh? (no disrespect)
If you were running a 3-4 Peppers doesn't really fit at DE and Suh doesn't really fit at NT.
I also highly doubt Rex's style and Belichicks style would fit together well. And BB is a defensive guy, not an offensive guy. He's so good a coach I think he'd be fine as an offensive coordinator but he's known for his defense, not his offense. You're crazy, mostly anyone can fit anywhere, realistically saying. Peppers can play a 3-4 nose if someone placed him there. you can't really say that. Hell im sure some people wouldn't agree to have Jay Ratliff at 3-4 nose and look what he's doing. Ware is on the line a lot of in our 3-4, and sometimes he's at a 5 tech and not out wide. Maybe he likes to drop a lot in his 3-4 and giving him that 3 man rush. Peppers, Suh and Ngata are very capable. It's all about how you play and how you get your players to play. | |
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WFColonel56
Posts : 1729 Join date : 2010-01-25 Age : 31 Location : Roanoke, VA / Greensboro, NC
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:15 pm | |
| ware at a 5 tech changes nothing for him. but peppers at a 3-4 nose changes a whole lot | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:02 am | |
| - Ant1010 wrote:
DE- (OLB if 3-4)
Majority of people that picked ware, was puttin him in a 3-4 system.. and No, whoever would put peppers at NG or DE in a 34 system would be an idiot. Even Albert Hanynesworth refuses to play NG. No way a coach could get peppers to play at de or ng in a 34 system. 34 system requires big beefy guys on the line to take on double teams. not great pass rushers...lol...they get moved to olb | |
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Tru Statement
Posts : 241 Join date : 2010-11-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:16 am | |
| - Ant1010 wrote:
- Tru Statement wrote:
- Boldin wrote:
- Offensive Coordinator- Belichick
Defensive Coordinator- Rex Ryan
QB- Josh Freeman RB- Ray Rice WR- Dez Bryant, Maclin, Mike Williams TE- Witten
OLBs- DeMarcus Ware, James Harrison MLB- Jonathan Beason, Lawrence Timmons CB- Aquib Talib, Rodgers-Cromartie FS- Jarius Byrd SS- Eric Berry DE- Haloti Ngata, Julius Peppers DT- Suh More of a madden guy than a football guy, eh? (no disrespect)
If you were running a 3-4 Peppers doesn't really fit at DE and Suh doesn't really fit at NT.
I also highly doubt Rex's style and Belichicks style would fit together well. And BB is a defensive guy, not an offensive guy. He's so good a coach I think he'd be fine as an offensive coordinator but he's known for his defense, not his offense. You're crazy, mostly anyone can fit anywhere, realistically saying. Peppers can play a 3-4 nose if someone placed him there. you can't really say that. Hell im sure some people wouldn't agree to have Jay Ratliff at 3-4 nose and look what he's doing. Ware is on the line a lot of in our 3-4, and sometimes he's at a 5 tech and not out wide. Maybe he likes to drop a lot in his 3-4 and giving him that 3 man rush. Peppers, Suh and Ngata are very capable. It's all about how you play and how you get your players to play. Of course Ngata is very capable. Ngata has often rolled to nose throughout his career. He's like 350 pounds, strong as an ox, and moves very well. Suh is certainly debatable but you'd certainly make him much less effective if at all effective. You're certainly right its all about how you play, though. However when I think 3-4, I'm thinking a conventional 2 gap 3-4 because few people run Bum Phillips one gap under style 3-4 and most football followers have no idea what that is. Most people wouldn't agree to have Jay Ratliff at 3-4 nose because he probably wouldn't be very successful at nose in a true 3-4, he'd be more suited for anchor. However, the cowboys are one of the few teams that run the one gap 3-4 where Ratliff plays more like a 4-3 3 technique and shoots gaps blowing up runs and rushing the passer. And Peppers is an egomaniac. He was extremely lazy in carolina. Highly doubtful you get him to play on a DL in a 3-4 and if you do you severely reduce his effectiveness and limit his talents. If he's in a 3-4 he's gonna wanna play OLB, period. Again you are very right about its much more about the style of defense than simple 3-4 or 4-3 but when you think traditional 3-4 with Peppers at DE and Suh at NT, you are severely limiting what makes both of those players elite, and thats what I was thinking. So if he meant a more hybrid 3-4, 3-4 under, one gap, bum phillips style 3-4 defense, you could certainly make it work, but thats not what I was thinking when I read it. | |
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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:27 am | |
| - Megatron_81 wrote:
- Ant1010 wrote:
DE- (OLB if 3-4)
Majority of people that picked ware, was puttin him in a 3-4 system.. and No, whoever would put peppers at NG or DE in a 34 system would be an idiot. Even Albert Hanynesworth refuses to play NG. No way a coach could get peppers to play at de or ng in a 34 system. 34 system requires big beefy guys on the line to take on double teams. not great pass rushers...lol...they get moved to olb Mostly anyone DL can play anywhere. Peppers can play a 3-4 DE if he were asked to. You guys listen to what NFL people say so much about 3-4 DT. They don't get double teamed everyplay. hell Ratliff is what 290. 'd take him over a lot of 3-4 noses. | |
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TheCrew22
Posts : 507 Join date : 2009-06-24
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:52 am | |
| Offensive Coordinator-Sean Payton Defensive Coordinator- Dick LeBeau
QB-Aaron Rodgers RB- Jamaal Charles WR-DeSean Jackson WR-Calvin Johnson WR- Anquan Boldin TE- Jermichael Finley
DE- Haloti Ngata, Richard Seymour DT- BJ Raji OLB- Clay Matthews, Terrell Suggs MLB- Pat Willis, Bart Scott CB- Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie FS- Nick Collins SS- Troy Polamalu
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Dalton Big D
Posts : 405 Join date : 2010-08-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 am | |
| peppers said he wanted to play in the 3-4 and be an olb before back when he was on the panthers. i remember there was alot of talk of a trade to the pats. | |
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Dalton Big D
Posts : 405 Join date : 2010-08-01
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:24 am | |
| offense sean payton Defense rex ryan qb Phillip Rivers hb Adrian Peterson wr brandon marshall wr sidney rice (great when healthy) slot wr percy harvin te gates
3-4
de haloti ngata richard seymour nt vince wilfork olb clay matthews suggs mlb ray lewis patrick willis cb d.r.c and aso fs ed reed ss michael huff (corner great in man coverage)
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ZFarls Admin
Posts : 1689 Join date : 2009-06-18 Age : 37 Location : Boston, MA
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:10 pm | |
| Terrell Thomas is Sick, Aaron Ross is a joke | |
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jordanl95
Posts : 529 Join date : 2010-02-12 Age : 30 Location : kennett square, PA
| Subject: Re: If you were told you had 3 years to... Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:20 pm | |
| - Dalton Big D wrote:
- offense sean payton
Defense rex ryan qb Phillip Rivers hb Adrian Peterson wr brandon marshall wr sidney rice (great when healthy) slot wr percy harvin te gates
3-4
de haloti ngata richard seymour nt vince wilfork olb clay matthews suggs mlb ray lewis patrick willis cb d.r.c and aso fs ed reed ss michael huff (corner great in man coverage)
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