does 46 zone stretch really stop the run?

I"ve heard people say it does but i've been using it in a couple of games and I can't say it's overly effective. Is there a setup I'm suppose to be using and or adjustments i'm not aware of?

spread the line and i like to put the the linebackers in the a gap.
but i would hit up megatron about this 1

mega made a 46 run d thread in the defensive section....it should be on the first few pages

blitz the B gap to whichever side u think the run is goin.. User FS

The better the dline, the better the results against the run.

THIS HOW YOU STOP THE RUN WITH THTHE RUN IS GOING TOE 46 ZONE STRETCH WICHEVER SIDE YOU THINK THE RUN IS GOING TO YOU BLITZ THAT INSIDE LB AND YOU SPY THE OTHER INSIDE LB IF YOUR OPP. IS RUNNING COUNTERS JUST RE-BLITZ THE DE WHERE THE COUNTER IS GOING AND KEEP THE SAME SETUP FOR YOUR LB'S IF YOU NEED MORE HELP HIT ME UP MY ID IS PADLOCK-D PS3

padlock-d wrote:

THIS HOW YOU STOP THE RUN WITH THTHE RUN IS GOING TOE 46 ZONE STRETCH WICHEVER SIDE YOU THINK THE RUN IS GOING TO YOU BLITZ THAT INSIDE LB AND YOU SPY THE OTHER INSIDE LB IF YOUR OPP. IS RUNNING COUNTERS JUST RE-BLITZ THE DE WHERE THE COUNTER IS GOING AND KEEP THE SAME SETUP FOR YOUR LB'S IF YOU NEED MORE HELP HIT ME UP MY ID IS PADLOCK-D PS3

Did this dude really just swagger jack me?

was thinkin the same^^

xHHx_megatron wrote:

padlock-d wrote:

THIS HOW YOU STOP THE RUN WITH THTHE RUN IS GOING TOE 46 ZONE STRETCH WICHEVER SIDE YOU THINK THE RUN IS GOING TO YOU BLITZ THAT INSIDE LB AND YOU SPY THE OTHER INSIDE LB IF YOUR OPP. IS RUNNING COUNTERS JUST RE-BLITZ THE DE WHERE THE COUNTER IS GOING AND KEEP THE SAME SETUP FOR YOUR LB'S IF YOU NEED MORE HELP HIT ME UP MY ID IS PADLOCK-D PS3

Did this dude really just swagger jack me?

he did swagger jack you

xHHx_megatron wrote:

padlock-d wrote:

THIS HOW YOU STOP THE RUN WITH THTHE RUN IS GOING TOE 46 ZONE STRETCH WICHEVER SIDE YOU THINK THE RUN IS GOING TO YOU BLITZ THAT INSIDE LB AND YOU SPY THE OTHER INSIDE LB IF YOUR OPP. IS RUNNING COUNTERS JUST RE-BLITZ THE DE WHERE THE COUNTER IS GOING AND KEEP THE SAME SETUP FOR YOUR LB'S IF YOU NEED MORE HELP HIT ME UP MY ID IS PADLOCK-D PS3

Did this dude really just swagger jack me?

ouch mega he did swagger jack u lol i been using spys as backside help for quite a while now user outside

Zone Stretch was the first Madden 11 play on D that I fell in love with. Pinching in the blue zones and usering the FS does stop most runs. You can cram guys in the box and contain the edges. The rush angle is pretty effective for 4 DL, that is what drew me originally.

Too bad I got 4 verted all day with the saints. Had to switch to OAK and man defense. Still love it tho

one important thing to know is that its not as much the "play" that stops the run (which it does a great job of doing) but its the formation.

46 loads the box with 8 defenders and when you play a cover 3 all those defenders play IN THE BOX - with a user defender ast the FS you can jam 9 guys in the box. For the most part the defense will have the advantage against the run when putting 9 guys in the box!

I'd disagree. Sure 46 is good but the gap control of the defensive line in that set of plays is whats great against the run. I personally like 3 deep or 3 deep spy better to stop the run but I'd argue that if you know how they work they're much more effective vs the run than other 46 plays.

who are you disagreing with? lol

I found a great run D but you'll have to use CHI or PHI playbook.

the spy run d is the best in the game and the box doesnt have to have 8 or 9 in it

Tru Statement wrote:

I'd disagree. Sure 46 is good but the gap control of the defensive line in that set of plays is whats great against the run. I personally like 3 deep or 3 deep spy better to stop the run but I'd argue that if you know how they work they're much more effective vs the run than other 46 plays.

3 deep has the SAME dline stunt as zone stretch... I just prefer zone over man cov.


@ Dalton- U remember what happend last time u used that weak run d against me,... TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ballgame *****

xHHx_megatron wrote:

Tru Statement wrote:

I'd disagree. Sure 46 is good but the gap control of the defensive line in that set of plays is whats great against the run. I personally like 3 deep or 3 deep spy better to stop the run but I'd argue that if you know how they work they're much more effective vs the run than other 46 plays.

3 deep has the SAME dline stunt as zone stretch... I just prefer zone over man cov.


@ Dalton- U remember what happend last time u used that weak run d against me,... TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ballgame *****

you dont even know what gm your talking about

Dalton Big D wrote:

the spy run d is the best in the game and the box doesnt have to have 8 or 9 in it

Yeah it is a good run D, but you can use motion to negate it..

Check the 4-3 Normal - QB Contain; Both OLBs are contained so if they run a toss, you can stop it.. and you user the MLB if they run up the middle.. crash the DL in to stop inside runs.. even if they run a toss, your DEs can get to the edge despite a crash inward.

wangtangkiki wrote:

Dalton Big D wrote:

the spy run d is the best in the game and the box doesnt have to have 8 or 9 in it

Yeah it is a good run D, but you can use motion to negate it..

Check the 4-3 Normal - QB Contain; Both OLBs are contained so if they run a toss, you can stop it.. and you user the MLB if they run up the middle.. crash the DL in to stop inside runs.. even if they run a toss, your DEs can get to the edge despite a crash inward.

u dont need 43 to use this concept though anything with Qb contain in the play should work and 4 downlineman

You can just play back a little more with your safety and run by the motioned blocker and still get in