Expand Your Mind

I suggest going through and reading all of these articles when you have the time. I understand that you may already know some of it, but I can guarantee you will learn something. This will not instantly make you better at Madden by any means. It will however expose you to different strategies and ways of seeing things. You will understand why and how certain things are employed. You will also learn the strengths and weaknesses that come along with them and the personnel that is required to succeed. Just because you know a 3-4 defense has 3 linemen and 4 linebackers doesn't mean you shouldn't read the article on it. Personally this has really helped me and has given me some good ideas as to what I will be doing in the upcoming Madden.

Offensive Formations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_set

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_formation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishbone_formation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_formation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_wing_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_set_back

Offensive Strategies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smashmouth_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryell_Offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_offense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-11_offense

Defensive Formations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-3_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-4_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-2_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-3-5_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-2-4_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dime_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_in_the_box_defense

Defensive Strategies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_coverage_shells

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_blitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46_defense

cool man i will definitely read those

i read most of these before and this was a great reminder and refresher for me...esp...on the 3-4 defense. lol! thanks.

Good info.

Eleiser great post my man! Your football IQ has been growing over this past year...thats great to see.

Once you understand football...I PROMISE you will get better at madden. Combine exploits in madden with real football theory and you will be unstoppable!

lol at A-11

how good is the A-11 offense. so beast

so good? hardly. what it is, is so illegal, pretty much everywhere now.

just the idea of it is so good

eh. i give the two guys who came up with it props, due to the fact that they found a loophole and effectively beat the system. however, its a gimmick offense.

the biggest part of the offense depends on confusing 17 year olds who dont know all the rules of football.

if the loop hole was in the NFL and it worked.

you would see the TE position become the most important in the game. pass and block optinos.

it would be used all over the place i would assume.

sgibs7 wrote:

if the loop hole was in the NFL and it worked.

this sentence makes zero sense.

sgibs7 wrote:

it would be used all over the place i would assume.

when you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

believe me, defensive coordinators would find a way to stop it. like i said, the main part of the the A-11 is not really just to take advantage of surprise factor on offense, but to take advantage of people on defense that cannot tell who is eligible to catch a pass quickly.

the A-11 works off the element of surprise. You never know whose going out for a pass. Thats why its effective. It would work the same way in the NFL, they would never know who was blocking or going out for a pass.

I type fast. Im at work, no time to correct my horrible forum grammar as is.

sgibs7 wrote:

the A-11 works off the element of surprise. You never know whose going out for a pass. Thats why its effective. It would work the same way in the NFL, they would never know who was blocking or going out for a pass.

its very easy to tell who is eligible to go out for a pass. the two outer most players on the line of scrimmage (if they are wearing the numbers 1-49, 80-99, or 50-79 and have declared eligibility to the head referee prior to breaking the huddle), or anyone lined up behind the line of scrimmage also wearing the appropriate numbers or that have declared eligibility.

by rule, only 5 people can go out for a pass each play.

(yes, the quarterback is eligible to go out for a pass, however it is impossible for the person who is throwing the pass, weather or not it is the 'quarterback', to go downfield to catch the pass)

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(also yes i know that Brett Favres first completed NFL pass was to himself, but thats not the point i'm making)

thats the thing with the A-11 they didnt have to declare who was eligible for a pass...it was based off the kickoff rule where anyone can be lined up anyhwere. the only rule was the the player receiving the snap had to be 7 yards behind the LOS. Anyone else from any position could block or pass regardless of there number.

IF the A-11 worked how it worked in high school it wouldnt matter how smart your defense is. they would never know whose blocking and whose receiving.

sgibs7 wrote:

thats the thing with the A-11 they didnt have to declare who was eligible for a pass

i know this. but you can tell just by looking at the formation. thats what im saying.


every play in American rules football, MUST have 7 players on the line of scrimmage at the start of the play. No more, no less.


the blue numbers in the following potential A-11 formations are the players eligible to catch a pass. its that easy to identify. it is a penalty/illegal play if a red player below catches a pass out of the formation.













pretty easy to identify

im pretty sure that the loophole is why it was so effective. the loophole was that anyone could be linedup anywhere. thats why theres confusions. you didnt have to have 7 on the line according to the loophole. It was basing it off of kicks and on kicks guys were able to be lined up anywhere.

sgibs7 wrote:

im pretty sure that the loophole is why it was so effective. the loophole was that anyone could be linedup anywhere. thats why theres confusions. you didnt have to have 7 on the line according to the loophole. It was basing it off of kicks and on kicks guys were able to be lined up anywhere.

100% incorrect.

you need 7 guys on the line of scrimmage or else its an illegal formation (in american football, not sure what it is in canadian rules).

look at the plays from the official A-11 website, all have 7 guys on the line of scrimmage:


this is a pass play, notice how the only people on the line of scrimmage that go out for a pass are the two outermost WR's, while the interior/spot receivers on the LOS step back and block(the E player, at least i think its E... the player just below the defensive S player, looks like its a decoy on a WR screen, but is ineligible to catch a pass), if they go downfield they would be flagged for ineligible receiver downfield.



this is a running play, similar to wildcat style option hand off, but an option pitch coming in from the motion. all players can legally move downfield due to the fact that its a run.


another pass. only WR on the left side that can go out for a catch is the one on the end. the A and B players step back towards the pocket to block, the R player steps back towards the sideline, most likely as a Decoy and confuse the DB's, but the R player is ineligible to catch a pass. the Y player would be eligible to go out for a pass, depending on the players number or if he declared that he was eligible to the ref prior to the play. one way or another, this play has the Y player blocking.

http://a11offense.com/

OK i stand corrected.

regardless the wildcat was effective in the NFL and in theory it should be esay to stop.

the A-11 is built off confusion. It would work in the NFL.

sgibs7 wrote:

OK i stand corrected.

regardless the wildcat was effective in the NFL and in theory it should be esay to stop.

the A-11 is built off confusion. It would work in the NFL.

Could the A-11 work in the NFL? Possibly. Obviously we have no way of knowing for sure. Its just that players in the NFL would be able to recognize who is eligible and who is ineligible prior to the snap, unlike high school kids, especially due to the fact that defensive coordinators now have the ability to speak into a defensive players headset(although its cut off at 15 seconds).

Its just that, to me, the A-11 depends on defensive players that do not know rules.

Im gonna agree with Sgibs i think it would create a great deal of confusion the defense would have to be pretty smart and knowledgeable to figure what the offense was doing.

The wildcat will be easy to stop after 2 weeks

Patsfan26 wrote:

The wildcat will be easy to stop after 2 weeks

What do you mean?

Patsfan26 wrote:

The wildcat will be easy to stop after 2 weeks

i think he means one of two things:

a) In the NFL (real life), the Wildcat will be easy to stop after 2 weeks.
-- meaning, now that defensive coordinators have been able to sit down and will continue to watch game film on the Wildcat all summer long, then they should be able to learn ways to stop it. There will likely be new wrinkles added to the Wildcat over the summer, to keep it fresh. But by week 2, it will be not as effective as it once was.

or

b) In Madden, the Wildcat will be easy to stop after 2 weeks.
-- meaning, in two weeks time, someone will develop a defense that will stop all 5 (or however many) plays that are in Madden. Then everyone will throw that defensive play into their audibles, rendering it useless.

unless other playbooks have more plays (whihc im pretty positive MIA does) i dont see the wildcat being that great.

it doenst look like theres ANY wiggle room for creativity with it. Which means it may just be a useless formation. Who knows, maybe something will be good from it