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PostSubject: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:43 pm

WFColonel56's 4-3 WALL

First and foremost for the ppl who were not here last year I relesed this defense. I still to this day prefer to run this defense on 3rd and 6+ over any defense in the game. The ease of the setups and the ease of user responsibilities have not been beat (at least imo)

ok let me describe the wall. First of all it is the 4-3 normal formation. I then will spread my LBs to achieve this look


-------------------FS--------------------------SS-------------
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-------------------------------MLB-----------------------------
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CB---------ROLB-RDE--RDT---LDT--LDE-LOLB----------CB

I call it the Wall because the alignment kind of resembles a wall.

But the reason why I love to go into this formation on 3rd and 6+ is the fact that most likely it is a pass and the fact that I am presenting a balanced formation is a wonderful thing. They do not have a tell to where the pressure is coming from (well there is but im not sharing) But you will user the Safety on the side that the heat is coming from

I like to classify the blitzes into levels. But you can get the same heat if you flip the play and set it up the same. All players will be called by actual position (LDE=DT on right of the screen)

Cover 3

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HOG BUCK 3

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So that is the 4-3 WALL[u]


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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:44 pm

make sure you blitz linebacker before you spreed your linebackers
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:46 pm

you can do them in any order It really depends on your OLBs speed. If he can get there with Spreading then blitzing than do that, if not blitz than spread
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:47 pm

trust me blitz then spread it changes the blitz angle
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:50 pm

i knw but they both work for me, and the spread then blitz gets there faster
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:52 pm

alright well i guess if its not broken then don't fix it, i ran this earlier in the year and i had issues with my blitz gettin picked up becuase of the blitz angle, just thought i would give a helpful tip
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:54 pm

np....but yea i guess i should put a note in the write up to notify ppl of that
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 11:58 pm

also if you want extra speed on the field come out in dime

becuase the 4-3 "wall" looks exactly like dime
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 1:21 am

Nice WFColonel, I ran this last year and it was good. Its a solid D for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 2:21 am

Colonel I labbed this tonight and wanted to get your opinion.


4-3 normal FS Zone Blitz
1. Spread LB First
2. Reblitz ROLB
3. Click on ROLB bring him offsides then click off (if you dont put him down far on the line blitz will not get through)
4. Contain both DT's
5. put blitzing FS in zone of your choice (man on RB)


4-3 normal Spy 3 Blitz
1. Spread LB first
2. Reblitz LOLB (Click on ROLB bring him offsides then click off (if you dont put him down far on the line blitz will not get through)
3. Contain both DT
4. RDE in Spy







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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 2:39 am

4-3 Normal under Ram Buck (man version)

1. Spread LB first
2. 2. Reblitz LOLB (Click on LOLB bring him offsides then click off (if you dont put him down far on the line blitz will not get through)
3. Contain both DT
4. Put RDE in zone of choice (purple, flat)


4-3 Normal slant 1 OLB Fire (man but heat comes from the other side)
1. Spread LB first
2. 2. Reblitz ROLB (Click on ROLB bring him offsides then click off (if you dont put him down far on the line blitz will not get through)
3. Contain both DT
4. Put LDE in zone of choice (purple, flat)



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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 4:55 am

Colonel so you only run the wall on 3rd downs r other times too?. No dl stunting this yr?
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 6:26 am

mg ill take a look at it in the morning.

bahdbwoy, yea i run the wall on 3rd downs, but i pretty much will stay in the 4-3 all game. And yes there is DL stunting, but thats for another time and place Wink
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 12:35 pm

does this concept work for all 43 normal plays you just ad lib
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 2:46 pm

i love this defense it is just like the 4-4 last year, heat can come from either side with it all looking the same and you can adjust coverage very easily, good stuff!
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 5:17 pm

what defensive play do you pick then make your changes.
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 6:07 pm

canum8kap wrote:
does this concept work for all 43 normal plays you just ad lib
it works for most of the plays in the 4-3 normal. But I tend to stick with the cover 3, I will dabble in the cover 2, I dont really like to do it from man but if u want to do it from man ram buck is the best play (the safety in man coverage tends to stay back more, plus it is the easiest to set up).......But yes the blitz can be achieved from most of the plays, but the set ups may vary a little
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 6:14 pm

Key is the dline stunt angles probably.. Match the cov3 angles as you will see some are a stronger slant
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 6:36 pm

The reason that I love the cover 3 is my fav is that the way that the DL rushes it makes it easier becuz I dont have to do alot of slants and re blitzes to the DL (in other versions i had it required slats and re blitzes)......And the fact that you can play the robber as the safety in the hook zone

If u notice the cover 2 has the DL on a stunt. That messes the blitz from 1 side but not the other. And it requires more set ups to achieve the heat from the other side.

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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 1:19 am

btw mg i haven taken a look yet but i will when i get back to my 360
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 2:22 am

Colonel,

Keep posting man I just went back to this scheme! I always learn a lot from you.

Robber? Do you always user this guy and blitz from the same side?
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 2:48 am

yep I always user the side that I blitz from. Lasy year i dabbled usering away from the side that im blitzing from. But that just adds more steps to the setups and if u get beat you dont really understand what beat you
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 6:57 am

Aside from when you use the wall what 43 set do you use most- over, under or still normal? You running Ten, Atl or Phl?
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 12:57 pm

as of now 4-3 normal is seeing the field. I tried to work the under, but the normal just offers more consistency. And now im running Tenn, but I might switch back to ATL to get back to the 2-4-5. Now I only will come out in the 4-4 vs 2 te formations. and you can basically get that alignment if you pinch the DL, spread the LBs, and bring the FS into the box from the 4-3 normal.....im still debating the switch though
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PostSubject: Re: THE 4-3 WALL   THE 4-3 WALL EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 1:22 pm

Does Atlanta defensive book have the nickel 2-4-5. I am using the Bears Defensive book. which book would you recommend for the Falcons on defense. I used your concept in my last 3 games and i won all 3 to were by the opponent quitting or pulling the plug. Thanks this post has helped me and now i finally have a scheme to base my defense off of. It even worked against 4 WR sets.
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