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+7zboy365 finfever wangtangkiki BeazT WFColonel56 xHHx_megatron ZAN 11 posters |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:00 pm | |
| Fitz is a beast. You don't need to tell me that.
But what's worked with you to move the ball with them? I have them in C4 after winning the Superbowl last season and have a 1-2 record through 3 games. I don't plan on not making the playoffs after a SB run (that's embarassing). So I'm doing the smart thing and re-evaluating. Fitz is gonna make a run at MVP vs. Carlton Mitchell of Cleveland (Chadwell and I on some other ish right now)...but I can't move the ball in an offense where my WRs drop everything unless it's thrown to Fitz and I can't run the ball...or if I do get a chance to throw to Fitz, Hall/Skelton butcher the throw.
Anyone had success with these fools on O?
I've got their D down. Best 2ndary (corners and safties combined in the game). Tallest goons ever....don't need help there....but 2 close losses are falling on my O...rather than my D.. | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:05 pm | |
| Beanie Wells is a beast as well. but caint catch for sh!t. | |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:24 pm | |
| Beanie Wells is NOT a beast. He's a teddy bear who coughs it up twice as often as he gets fighting for yards animations.
Lerod Stevens-Howling is so fast that he outruns his slow (terrible OL) and goes down to a gust of wind.
Hightower is neither strong/nor fast. He doesn't see my field....
AHHHH their backfield kills me. I can't run a balanced O for ish with them! | |
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WFColonel56
Posts : 1729 Join date : 2010-01-25 Age : 31 Location : Roanoke, VA / Greensboro, NC
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:05 pm | |
| Havent got in the lab woth them (ima ATL FAN) but I know that Breston is the guy who you want in space. If i were u he would be the guy who most of my plays are designed to get the ball.....Use fitz at the threat and make him pay with breston if he tries to do anything that blanket covers him
HB- Wells and L.S-H (speed and power as im sure u knw)
i knw i prob said things u already knw/have tried already but hope it helps | |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:20 pm | |
| Breaston just gets soooo lost in the mix. He's not overly fast and can't route run like a Welker/Wayne (like he does in real life)...He gets lost in the shuffle.
Right now it's Hall/Skelton rolling the pocket and chucking to Fitz all game. I can't continue to do that. Fitz gets his 100+ yards and 1+ TD every game, but I'm sacrificing drives with this style. This style right now is high risk high reward. I get a lot of completions to Fitz/Williams (6'5'') and my mentality on a deep pick is that its better than most punts (as far as field position goes). That D is goonish and is LOCKDOWN in man...but relying on the big play on O and a balls to the wall d is hard to win a ship with. Ultimately that's my goal. I got to defend the crown.
Having Bradshaw and Jacobs really made the game easy for Eli when I was the SB, despite having no WRs (Barden didn't see my field...but Nicks/Manningham/Smith worked well together)...but Wells and LSH can't hold a candle to Bradshaw/Jacobs. | |
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WFColonel56
Posts : 1729 Join date : 2010-01-25 Age : 31 Location : Roanoke, VA / Greensboro, NC
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| I think a spread offense (gun or UC)is your best bet on getting the best out of these players
WRS- fitz, williams, breaston , roberts
X-----LB----00000-----A-----B ----------------QB Y--------------
it can be an easy way to get cheap yards....
you can run the uncovered theory/5 in the box run/ load the box 4 verts combo
and its an easy formation to run meshes, curl flats, drive, smash combos...
and you can throw in motion to keep them off of your scheme
its an easy formation to learn and it most deff will help | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:36 pm | |
| just the oline sucks, so not really good blocking. he has bout the same carry rating as dmc.. over 85. If I were u, i'd keep chucking lmao.. I prolly have skelton @ qb, somewhat mobile.
over 90 trucking and 95+ stiff arm. 86+ speed and 85+ accel. reminds me of jacobs but a lil faster. but its ur team. U better lay some hit sticks with wilson or porter/hayes and get some turnovers. | |
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BeazT
Posts : 99 Join date : 2010-10-16 Location : Tampa, FL
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:12 am | |
| I would go with Hall and try and get a dink and dunk O going and when u catch the cheating up hit fitzgerald or 6'5 deep | |
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wangtangkiki
Posts : 2280 Join date : 2010-02-13
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:09 am | |
| - ZAN wrote:
- Beanie Wells is NOT a beast. He's a teddy bear who coughs it up twice as often as he gets fighting for yards animations.
Lerod Stevens-Howling is so fast that he outruns his slow (terrible OL) and goes down to a gust of wind.
Hightower is neither strong/nor fast. He doesn't see my field....
AHHHH their backfield kills me. I can't run a balanced O for ish with them! Do what Juego does.. He's had the Cardinals 3 times now in C4. Season 2: 12-4 Season 4: 13-3 Season 6: Just started no games played yet He uses Snugs Flip.. He would slant out to Williams and Fitzgerald.. No running except draws.. Pass heavy basically.. Btw.. I haven't looked at their OL, but the only stat that matters is Run Block Strength.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBQvb2UPc94 | |
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finfever
Posts : 245 Join date : 2010-01-31
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:10 am | |
| ever try running the ball with wells at FB? I love the FB dive from iforms, especially when the defense is in zone. I always motion the WR in the A-gap so you have a lead blocker for a FB who is already so close to the LOS. This is very effective for me when I run it with raiders FB(spacing on name, 87 speed dude). It seems like wells would be even better since of his similar speed and 90 trucking. You should be able to fall forward every time with him and with the lead blocking WR, and being so close to LOS already, you should be able to mix it in for 4+ yards a carry. And if in man utilize the toss with LSH, or a blast/off tackle. Cards would be tuff to play with | |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:42 pm | |
| Marcel Reese is what you're searching for.
Good post WTK. | |
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zboy365
Posts : 41 Join date : 2011-02-10 Age : 35 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:36 pm | |
| - ZAN wrote:
- Beanie Wells is NOT a beast. He's a teddy bear who coughs it up twice as often as he gets fighting for yards animations.
Lerod Stevens-Howling is so fast that he outruns his slow (terrible OL) and goes down to a gust of wind.
Hightower is neither strong/nor fast. He doesn't see my field....
AHHHH their backfield kills me. I can't run a balanced O for ish with them! nahhh he is a beast lmaoo use the stiff arm, I like their D better than their offense. I use to run them last year | |
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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:43 pm | |
| Honestly, if you don't have a running game, like the Cards do, their O-line is horrible. It has to be sweeps, and shotgun draws, and mostly passing. Use Fitz, Breaston, and it's some other young WR, but he has good CIT i just forgot his name, he's pretty fast too. I would use LSH at WR, or one of my Shotty 2back backs. I mean just use those 5 players. Your RB Hightower or Beanie, and those guys. If you can't run and run sweep, your O-lineman getting beat up front has a less chance of effecting your run, and the fact that they're so horrible.
Just try out Pass Balanced with the Cardinals. | |
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zboy365
Posts : 41 Join date : 2011-02-10 Age : 35 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:08 pm | |
| - Ant1010 wrote:
- Honestly, if you don't have a running game, like the Cards do, their O-line is horrible. It has to be sweeps, and shotgun draws, and mostly passing. Use Fitz, Breaston, and it's some other young WR, but he has good CIT i just forgot his name, he's pretty fast too. I would use LSH at WR, or one of my Shotty 2back backs. I mean just use those 5 players. Your RB Hightower or Beanie, and those guys. If you can't run and run sweep, your O-lineman getting beat up front has a less chance of effecting your run, and the fact that they're so horrible.
Just try out Pass Balanced with the Cardinals. Hey ant, i agree their oline blocks like pop warner linemen lol. But have you not seen Sgibs runnin the ball effortlessly with the Raiders? Never mind the quick toss he was running it up the middle with the Raiders and getting yards, The ultimate pop warner offensive team. In Madden I've found the linemen stats are not that important I can run the ball with the lions its just about scheming to get holes to open. Ive seen guys run the tight pro stretch/power o run schemes all game with tons of success with bum linemen. | |
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Ant1010
Posts : 577 Join date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:17 pm | |
| edge runs. help out sorry lineman, because sometimes the defense gets in the their own way, lol. | |
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SasserAssassin
Posts : 589 Join date : 2010-12-22 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:46 pm | |
| punt the ball and play for defense scores or return the ball into field goal range | |
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xhhxbronco
Posts : 72 Join date : 2010-02-26
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:44 am | |
| - ZAN wrote:
- Beanie Wells is NOT a beast. He's a teddy bear who coughs it up twice as often as he gets fighting for yards animations.
Lerod Stevens-Howling is so fast that he outruns his slow (terrible OL) and goes down to a gust of wind.
Hightower is neither strong/nor fast. He doesn't see my field....
AHHHH their backfield kills me. I can't run a balanced O for ish with them! yeppppp i went 12-4 wit them in p3 league but lost in nfc championship because of cough ups smh he a liabilty | |
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GunfusedX
Posts : 708 Join date : 2010-10-06
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:46 am | |
| put rodgers-cro in on o with the cb package out of minnasota fug it! | |
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WFColonel56
Posts : 1729 Join date : 2010-01-25 Age : 31 Location : Roanoke, VA / Greensboro, NC
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:08 pm | |
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ZAN
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2010-03-16 Age : 34 Location : Springfield, IL
| Subject: Re: Anyone Dabbled With The Cardinals O? Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:59 pm | |
| thought about it outta new england book...spread flex | |
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