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+16GAV abdaninja suicide-manual iswaggnificent stritzo sillyrbbt11 CookieMonsta xHHx_megatron jordanl95 Alyoyo wangtangkiki GunfusedX steelersfan0023 Dalton Big D Militant X 1 ezekjuninor 20 posters |
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ezekjuninor
Posts : 289 Join date : 2010-02-11 Location : Dublin, Ireland
| Subject: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:30 am | |
| Guys, as we all know the cowboys are slowing dieing out, both in madden and in real life... I was just wondering what would be a good team similar to the cowboys, I don't want to use the raiders because of their QB, i'm thinking about the ravens but their offence is slow, i'll appreciate and help | |
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Militant X 1
Posts : 1765 Join date : 2009-07-01 Location : Chesapeake, VA
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:40 am | |
| Ezek....
1st....i have SOLELY run my Ravens...EVERY YEAR! irregardless of whether or not they have been viewed as a "top" madden team. that means....05', 06', 07', 08', 09', 10' and now 11'. lol! sure, they have a 90 ovr this year....but....i would still rock them if they had a 70-80. i am not a bandwagoner! they are my boys and i have dropped many of the madden "favs" such as; Patriots, Cowboys, Saints, Colts, Vikings etc., with them.
2nd...although the WRing core is a lil slow...they are actually quality receivers! Mason, Boldin, Housh are more than capable of getting the job done! plus, Stallworth has the speed (94) needed to stretch the field to open up other routes underneath for Todd Heap as well. plus, our running game is nice as with Ray Rice, Willis McGahee and Le'Ron McClain. they are our "3-headed" monster.
Flacco can sail passes right by open receivers from time to time (smh!) but....his short, quick and immediate passing accuracy is very nice and allows him to run that West Coast offensive rather smoothly. give'em a try, you'll be surprised.
~Mili
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ezekjuninor
Posts : 289 Join date : 2010-02-11 Location : Dublin, Ireland
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:01 pm | |
| THANKS MILITANT, i'll test them out | |
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Dalton Big D
Posts : 405 Join date : 2010-08-01
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:16 pm | |
| You hate there rb though you have used them before on me and everytime you got mad about there rb not being fast enough, also there d got knocked down quite a bit with man coverage for the corners last update | |
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steelersfan0023
Posts : 191 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:02 pm | |
| Yeah I have always wanted to play with the ravens but im a die hard steelers fan so I just can't bring myself to do it
I would try the saints who I think have the best O in the game, and there D isn't the fastest but they do have some speed enough to get the job done | |
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GunfusedX
Posts : 708 Join date : 2010-10-06
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:13 pm | |
| a sleeper team you may want to try out are the 49ers patrick willis > every other defensive player in madden | |
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steelersfan0023
Posts : 191 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:09 pm | |
| ^^^^^ but other than there LB's there D is sub par, and other than vernon Davis they don't have much O gore is to slow to be an elite back | |
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wangtangkiki
Posts : 2280 Join date : 2010-02-13
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:07 pm | |
| Teams that you can try out: Broncos - Only knocks on them are the RBs aren't fast [88 spd/97 acc, not blazing.. good acc though..] and DL isn't great.. but I put Jarvis Moss/Ayers at DE.. Lions - SPEED on offense.. 2 95 speed RBs.. Megatron, several 92~ speed WRs.. Stefan Logan's speed is goin up as he got a kick return TD [2 actually, one called back bcuz penalty.] They have 3 CBs w/ 90+ speed.. Not the best D.. but if you want all out O.. you got it.. Panthers - Another team with a lot of speed everywhere.. Gettis is 6'3" 80 CIT, 92/93 speed.. Beast WR.. Steve Smith 97 speed short but high CIT.. They have fast CBs too.. 2 beast LBs [86 spd+ LBs] 2 great RBs.. [Williams & Stewart] Only knock is QB Accuracy..
Dude, Patrick Willis pissed me off.. He is actually the first player that I've actually thought had a mind of his own in Madden.. I did a toss play 2 times in a row.. the first time [btw I had Jamal Charles..], He outran his entire team, even his CBs/Mays & tackled me.. then the second time he did it again for a -1 yd loss.. I want him, but I would rather have A LOT more people instead of him on my team in Madden.. In real life, I want him on my team now... best LB in the league.. better than Ray Ray..
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ezekjuninor
Posts : 289 Join date : 2010-02-11 Location : Dublin, Ireland
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| Thanks guys, Dalton, ive gotten better at running the ball since then, i'm not expecting to break away for touchdowns anymore, jst pounding the rock for a few yards.... also their D if as close to the Raiders as possible, and with a good Qb their one of the top madden teams | |
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:26 pm | |
| Id still use the cowboys regardless of the release of J.Willams. He wasnt really that important anyway. All he really had was speed. I agree on the panthers though. I switch out Moore for Jimmy. | |
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wangtangkiki
Posts : 2280 Join date : 2010-02-13
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:29 pm | |
| - Alyoyo wrote:
- Id still use the cowboys regardless of the release of J.Willams. He wasnt really that important anyway. All he really had was speed. I agree on the panthers though. I switch out Moore for Jimmy.
lolol. That just sounds funny. "All he really had was speed." If I was a jerk (i am, but..), I would put that quote in my signature.. but I won't Speed is a huge factor.. Oh yeah also.. All he had was high man coverage too.. more than Ware.. | |
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:33 pm | |
| His block shedding isnt really that great neither is his awareness. HP is low. Plus Ware isnt really much of a cover guy tbh. | |
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jordanl95
Posts : 529 Join date : 2010-02-12 Age : 30 Location : kennett square, PA
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| Ravens are the best defense in madden hands down. | |
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wangtangkiki
Posts : 2280 Join date : 2010-02-13
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:40 pm | |
| - Alyoyo wrote:
- His block shedding isnt really that great neither is his awareness. HP is low. Plus Ware isnt really much of a cover guy tbh.
Awareness doesn't matter.. He made plays despite his 35 awareness last year.. and he still did this year.. Yeah, Ware isn`t a cover guy.. Who is your cover guy for a 3-4 system? Keith Brooking? Bradie James? No. None of those guys could keep up with a RB like Jason Williams could. - jordanl95 wrote:
- Ravens are the best defense in madden hands down.
It really depends on your scheme though.. I would much rather have the Raiders D if I run 46 Speed package.. If I ran a 3-4 or something.. I would rather have the Ravens.. [Not really though.. I would honestly audible down so I could have players like Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff, Asomugha, Chris Johnson, Routt, Thomas Howard, McClain, and Seymour all on the field at the same time..] All of the Raiders CBs have 80 MCV.. I think maybe one guy doesn't.. and he has 79.. They all have at least 93 speed.. They have beast safeties.. Huff, Branch, Mitchell.. Two great LBs: Howard, McClain Great DL: Seymour, Scott, Groves [FAST DE], Wimbley [97 OVR DE].. Henderson and Kelly.. The Ravens have Ed Reed.. I would much rather have a taller and faster player than Ed Reed. I LOVEEE ED REED in real life.. but I like Huff better.. Branch > Zbikowski.. Ed Reed/Polamalu/Dawkins are the weird conundrums of Madden and the NFL.. I would rather have Taylor Mays over any of those people.. I'd rather have Huff over Polamalu.. with the hit stick being WAYYYY less effective, I'd rather have height than hit power.. [Weird that Ed Reed has like 75 hit power..] These guys are great in the NFL.. good/great in Madden, but there are better players that I'd rather use.. and many others would rather use.. Of course there is the intimidation factor.. Some people don't throw to Revis or Bailey's side because they think it will be picked.. they see Polamalu & they play cautious.. I don't do that, but there are people that I believe are afraid because they see a bad *** "name" or "superstar" player and will be nervous.. So yeah.. Raiders DBs are almost all 6'0".. LBs are almost all 6'3".. DL is almost all 6'3" The CBs have at least 80 MCV.. It's ridiculous.. then you have the offense.. but this is just about defense. | |
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:51 pm | |
| - wangtangkiki wrote:
- Alyoyo wrote:
- His block shedding isnt really that great neither is his awareness. HP is low. Plus Ware isnt really much of a cover guy tbh.
Awareness doesn't matter.. He made plays despite his 35 awareness last year.. and he still did this year.. Yeah, Ware isn`t a cover guy.. Who is your cover guy for a 3-4 system? Keith Brooking? Bradie James? No. None of those guys could keep up with a RB like Jason Williams could. With everything else, Williams is the last guy I want out on the field. Speed is nice have but thats not the MOST important imo | |
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Dalton Big D
Posts : 405 Join date : 2010-08-01
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:15 pm | |
| ezek, they were second to me for d behind the raiders and a close second in my opinion before they went down so much on last update. dont think they lost speed, but man coverage went down alot, not a big deal to some but i dont feel as comfortable running it often. there o is not explosive, you really have to have a systemic offense but i will say boldin with his 99 cit is beast but i would still take hayword-bey because of his "touchdown factor" on every play when his cit was 81 he was a top receiver ( one of the best in the game, its the truth) but they are a top team i used them for about a week before back to raiders and also for awhile when madden first came out. | |
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wangtangkiki
Posts : 2280 Join date : 2010-02-13
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:24 pm | |
| Exactly what Dalton said.. You have to run a West Coast hybrid offense.. Short passes.. take 5 yd plays.. don't go for the big one.. Take your time.. if there are 5 in the box, run the ball..
Height is the biggest factor on why I like the Raiders over the Ravens.. | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:27 pm | |
| - wangtangkiki wrote:
- Alyoyo wrote:
- His block shedding isnt really that great neither is his awareness. HP is low. Plus Ware isnt really much of a cover guy tbh.
Awareness doesn't matter.. He made plays despite his 35 awareness last year.. and he still did this year.. Yeah, Ware isn`t a cover guy.. Who is your cover guy for a 3-4 system? Keith Brooking? Bradie James? No. None of those guys could keep up with a RB like Jason Williams could.
- jordanl95 wrote:
- Ravens are the best defense in madden hands down.
It really depends on your scheme though.. I would much rather have the Raiders D if I run 46 Speed package.. If I ran a 3-4 or something.. I would rather have the Ravens.. [Not really though.. I would honestly audible down so I could have players like Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff, Asomugha, Chris Johnson, Routt, Thomas Howard, McClain, and Seymour all on the field at the same time..]
All of the Raiders CBs have 80 MCV.. I think maybe one guy doesn't.. and he has 79.. They all have at least 93 speed.. They have beast safeties.. Huff, Branch, Mitchell.. Two great LBs: Howard, McClain Great DL: Seymour, Scott, Groves [FAST DE], Wimbley [97 OVR DE].. Henderson and Kelly..
The Ravens have Ed Reed.. I would much rather have a taller and faster player than Ed Reed. I LOVEEE ED REED in real life.. but I like Huff better.. Branch > Zbikowski.. Ed Reed/Polamalu/Dawkins are the weird conundrums of Madden and the NFL.. I would rather have Taylor Mays over any of those people.. I'd rather have Huff over Polamalu.. with the hit stick being WAYYYY less effective, I'd rather have height than hit power.. [Weird that Ed Reed has like 75 hit power..] These guys are great in the NFL.. good/great in Madden, but there are better players that I'd rather use.. and many others would rather use.. Of course there is the intimidation factor.. Some people don't throw to Revis or Bailey's side because they think it will be picked.. they see Polamalu & they play cautious.. I don't do that, but there are people that I believe are afraid because they see a bad *** "name" or "superstar" player and will be nervous..
So yeah.. Raiders DBs are almost all 6'0".. LBs are almost all 6'3".. DL is almost all 6'3" The CBs have at least 80 MCV.. It's ridiculous.. then you have the offense.. but this is just about defense.
Everyone is so whack about the raiders. Ravens are clearly the more dominant team. Ravens Dline is 3 times better then raiders ( suggs and kindle as DE), Ravens LB's are Just as fast and more HITPOWER and. Ravens CBS are just AS FAST and GOOD with Man coverage (IF NOT BETTER EXCEPT RAVENS DONT HAVE NHAMDI OR WHATEVER). Not to mention safties are better and more aware. Dont even get me started bout Ravens Offense. I think Militant has my back on this one I think the Ravens are the best team in Madden after I been using them lately. then cowboys. Raiders= EWWWW!!! | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:31 pm | |
| You have to pray the raiders receivers even catch the d@mn ball let alone hold on to it. if the pass is even decent.
Ravens= No flaws
Please man up the ravens with raiders. The ravens wr Route running will make them untouchable. | |
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| - Megatron_81 wrote:
- everyone is so whack about the raiders. Ravens are clearly the more dominant team. Ravens Dline is 3 times better then raiders ( suggs and kindle as DE), Ravens LB's are Just as fast and more HITPOWER and. Ravens CBS are just AS FAST and GOOD with Man coverage (IF NOT BETTER EXCEPT RAVENS DONT HAVE NHAMDI OR WHATEVER). Not to mention safties are better and more aware.
Dont even get me started bout Ravens Offense. I think Militant has my back on this one
I think the Ravens are the best team in Madden after I been using them lately. then cowboys.
Dont forget Ngata at DT lol. On offense, only thing I really like is Rice and TJs catch in traffic rating lol | |
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xHHx_megatron
Posts : 1335 Join date : 2010-04-05 Age : 36 Location : sooner state
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:59 pm | |
| boldin and TJ's CIT combined is higher than every body on the raiders combined..( just saying, Im not being serious)
Yea Ngata is twice as good as seymour.. even cody (rookie dt as 97 strength and 90+ shedblock)
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:08 pm | |
| - Megatron_81 wrote:
- boldin and TJ's CIT combined is higher than every body on the raiders combined..( just saying, Im not being serious)
Yea Ngata is twice as good as seymour.. even cody (rookie dt as 97 strength and 90+ shedblock)
Whats boldin's? TJ's is like a 99 last I checked lol. Raiders catching is probably the only downfall imo. Between them two, Id go both lol. | |
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CookieMonsta
Posts : 231 Join date : 2010-01-19
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| - Alyoyo wrote:
With everything else, Williams is the last guy I want out on the field. Speed is nice have but thats not the MOST important imo Speed + MCV are exactly what I needed him for, I didn't need hit power or awareness or play recognition (past tense because I no longer use the Cowboys). I needed him to cover RBs so I didn't have to user them, and he accomplished that better than arguably anyone else in the league. What kind of D do you run? And what do you think is more important than speed (PLEASE don't say awareness). | |
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steelersfan0023
Posts : 191 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:28 pm | |
| I think the ravens and raiders D are pretty similar raiders have more height which is helpful and of course nnamdi, but ravens have great LBS and D line | |
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Alyoyo
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-09-12
| Subject: Re: Time to leave the cowboys??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:50 pm | |
| - CookieMonsta wrote:
- Alyoyo wrote:
With everything else, Williams is the last guy I want out on the field. Speed is nice have but thats not the MOST important imo Speed + MCV are exactly what I needed him for, I didn't need hit power or awareness or play recognition (past tense because I no longer use the Cowboys). I needed him to cover RBs so I didn't have to user them, and he accomplished that better than arguably anyone else in the league. What kind of D do you run? And what do you think is more important than speed (PLEASE don't say awareness). I feel like awareness is just as important as speed. Ex. an olb with 80's speed playing mcv on RB, I'd line him up to be in better position to cover rb but chances are if he has low awareness, he's going to have a "late reaction"(like move towards LOS, or inside and then cover rb. Idk if it does that to you guys) Well if people think speed is the most important thing, I guess they think Charles Woodson is terrible in the game. | |
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