Time to leave the cowboys???

ezekjuninor wrote:

Of course everyone knows that raiders are the best team in madden, no one is disputing that...
It just gets annoying when I play 10 ranked matches and about 7 of my 10 opponents are using the raiders

Yeah.. actually Megatron is saying the Ravens are the best team.

Well I have been following this argument and decided to try out the ravens cause I am a raiders user. When playing with the ravens I liked the fact on O that you didn't have to worry about bad throws and dropped passes as much, but when I played a team like the raiders I found it a lot harder to get space between my receivers and There DB's due to the lack of speed. I will say though it did seem easier to run the ball, but the lack of speed on O really put me at a disadvantage I felt like.

On D the bottom line to me was Nnamdi he is a game changer and to me the best defensive player in the game, and for some reason I felt the ravens didn't cover receivers as well

I feel like the raiders are definitely the better team, but the bottom line is that is comes down to preference

Dalton Big D wrote:

megatron is he crowned the cowboys as kings, then once the roster update details were released he thinks the ravens are the best now.

um who did i have as my number 2 team...O thats right RAVENS. I changed my mind after I decided to PLAY with them. I moved them ahead cause hitpower, dline, oline, ravens have better secondary and LB core overall with depth.

With Ravens, all you have to do is put them on deep in or out routes and you will see the seperation they get even tho they are bout 10 points slower..Lmao you caint do that with raiders offense against ravens defense..LMAO x 2... you caint even run the ball effectively over the course of the game against ravens defense LMAO x3...but yet ya'll think raiders best team ever LMAO x 4... it seems like if you were to compare these two teams, that the ravens would be have the better review in just bout every category...only overwhelming thing raiders have over ravens is fast receivers(who caint catch unless they are super wide open) and hb( 84 carry is decent at best, fumbles will always be a concern)...

I will always...ALWAYS play with ravens against raiders... sometimes giants against cowboys...against ravens I would prolly pick giants..I will never ever play with raiders again. It was tempting to play with them last year, I played with them once and it was an ugly win. (before any roster updates)

I changed my top team even before I knew about any new roster updates...geez dalton...smh

wangtangkiki wrote:

Weird.. GOTW had two players using the best team in the game.. the Raiders.. NOT THE RAVENS. Weird.. the Raiders have a bad OL but a great DL.. Gibs attempted to run it.. HE SUCCEEDED.. There were dropped passes, there were overthrows [surprisingly low amount].. but it was still a great game.. You could go pass heavy with the Raiders like Jeter.. or Run Balanced like Gibs is right now.. even with a crappy OL.. it still worked out..

[On the few plays that gibs did 10 man coverage with 1 blitzer, the OL held up.. At the end of the game, there was a time they had 5 OL vs 2 DL.. the OL held up for 10 or so seconds.. what do you expect of them? The QB eventually had to scramble because of how good the coverage was.. [there were 9 pass defenders.]


Do you still really think OL matters Megatron?

yes OL still matters...gibs succeeded against an average player...jeter smh...all I heard was he ran OT last madden (OT did not work against me) and runs falcon cross this madden....his run d, his all around D was just trash....you know your a bum when you get beat by doing the same thing but you keep doing the same thing only the fact you have the raiders. How many times u gonna let someone do a draw on you..wtf.. and not to mention the poor drive he had..over 1:00 and all he had to do was do the hb draw and he woulda been in FG range easily- the ignorance of people these days.but yet he still continued to attempt to throw into against 10 men in coverage with only 4 receivers...OMG just "grinds my gears." It was not a great game. gibbs shoulda blew him out.

but back to the matter. Of coures the raiders OL would have held up to one blitzer (raider) the raiders DL is not that great

If it was Nagata or cody or suggs (ravens)..he would have gotten back there alot faster...trust me ive done it and seen it

Megatron_81 wrote:

Dalton Big D wrote:

megatron is he crowned the cowboys as kings, then once the roster update details were released he thinks the ravens are the best now.

um who did i have as my number 2 team...O thats right RAVENS. I changed my mind after I decided to PLAY with them. I moved them ahead cause hitpower, dline, oline, ravens have better secondary and LB core overall with depth.

With Ravens, all you have to do is put them on deep in or out routes and you will see the seperation they get even tho they are bout 10 points slower..Lmao you caint do that with raiders offense against ravens defense..LMAO x 2... you caint even run the ball effectively over the course of the game against ravens defense LMAO x3...but yet ya'll think raiders best team ever LMAO x 4... it seems like if you were to compare these two teams, that the ravens would be have the better review in just bout every category...only overwhelming thing raiders have over ravens is fast receivers(who caint catch unless they are super wide open) and hb( 84 carry is decent at best, fumbles will always be a concern)...

It seems like if you were to read this topic, you would find a comparison of these two teams.

I broke down these two teams.. The GOTW proved OL doesn't matter.. The DL is more dynamic.. you are wasting a player by putting Suggs at DE.. I'd try to put Suggs on the field.. Have fun just running out routes.. You should watch the game between Sgibs and myself.. He ran on a draw play.. he gained like 5 yds because of the speed of the Raiders.. he was lucky to get 5 yds because he had McFadden.. If he had Rice, there was no chance he'd get as many yds as McFadden did.

well first ill say your wrong about all the ratings but much do you run it anyway?? your really limiting your offense if you run often anyway. if im playing well and someone cant stop my offense ill run it 5 or 6 times, situational if im not up big then i will more. For my hike throw offense ill take the raiders bad oline, inaccurate qb, and wrs that drop everything because none of that matters or mybaye.... the titans which i just put up a 100 on mft5 no lie like a level (15-18) not sure because its not important but i run it twice with the titans ( had johnson at wr). And since you think oline stats are so important what do you look for run block footwork, strength?? or possibly awareness (most worthless stat) to recongize the dt right in his face

As for pass protection ill take there faster oline for possibly recovering on a nano.

Now since speed doesnt matter for oline, or wrs, rbs, dts, des.

You probalby want charles woodson or ronde barber type corners too huh, and ej henderson at mlb. Or does speed matter at certain postions??

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

Dalton Big D wrote:

well first ill say your wrong about all the ratings but much do you run it anyway?? your really limiting your offense if you run often anyway. if im playing well and someone cant stop my offense ill run it 5 or 6 times, situational if im not up big then i will more. For my hike throw offense ill take the raiders bad oline, inaccurate qb, and wrs that drop everything because none of that matters or mybaye.... the titans which i just put up a 100 on mft5 no lie like a level (15-18) not sure because its not important but i run it twice with the titans ( had johnson at wr). And since you think oline stats are so important what do you look for run block footwork, strength?? or possibly awareness (most worthless stat) to recongize the dt right in his face

As for pass protection ill take there faster oline for possibly recovering on a nano.

Now since speed doesnt matter for oline, or wrs, rbs, dts, des.

You probalby want charles woodson or ronde barber type corners too huh, and ej henderson at mlb. Or does speed matter at certain postions??

give me woodson or barber and henderson..They would fit nicely in my defense.. I run the ball more times than i throw it.. how am I limiting my offense when Im a run first person? I know how to beat any defense and blitz just by running the ball.. I dont recall saying anything bout awareness playing into the offensive line. speed is not important. The team I use and have the best record is the giants (40-10).

I dont know why u think I would be impressed by putting up a 100 against a lower level..obviously that person has no defense. I played this dude called xxstickworkxx (a level 28) he had raiders I had the ravens. 60-38 me. I scored once defense. he tryed to glitch me but wasnt successful in the end. I passed maybe like 15 times. yes I look for runblock, footwork. the higher the strenght the better the runblock.

I played robe like a week ago, he won 49-42 it was a gg he had cowboys I had giants. I was consistenly gaining 5 yards a pop. I broke a 80 yard td with jacobs. so tell me again how am i limiting my offense?

I could care less if ur pass happy, that just makes it more fun for me. I have yet to see someone stop my run game. But I can promise that I have stopped any pass happy person a few times a game. I have been averaging over 160 yrds rushing for a while. My offensive scheme is almost flawless now

I can play with anyteam and be successful..ANY.. what can you say bout yourself? or u need a fast team to win..LMAO

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

yeah might get 5 yards everytime cause hes 264 and 6'4'' and when hes falls forward hes getting two or three more yards. he might be good rb to pound it with but im not going to fear the tossed when my des have similar speed and the rest of my defense. I assume you go a gap, and power os, and a few counters... thats fine but im not respecting the toss. I will let ppl run it and thats fine but when the games on the line the box will have 9 in the box and it will get stopped. i dont need a great team to be succesful for o my scheme only needs a couple fast wr, and defense i pefer fast players for man. And why would i not create a scheme that goes with my team, like how i could use my scheme with giants but its not going to be as effective. the guy i put a 100 on is from mb, level 13 146-67 but idk i was just saying that because hes seen my offense at least 10 games.

idc about ranked games i have only got skill points once in the last 10 games because of quitters...not to mention i have had 26 games started when ppl quit and you used to not get the win. also my dnf is like 50 or something from quitting unranked games, when ahead or backing out before it starts. ranked games are a joke especially this year...from not getting wins...to skill points...to unranked affecting ranked dnf.

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

Man I just lost to money games in a row I didn't think Jason Williams was that big of a factor I will no longer be using the cowboys time to look for a new team

Raiders....redskins, Carolina, Denver all solid

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

the thing with this nanos is anticipating where its coming from cause you slide wrong, all hell breaks loose

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

Against me wangie, If you nano me, your gonna get burnt....just lettin ya know...nanos arent good against the rungame... you would have to play gap integrity...I dont have to worry bout if you're sending a blitz from either direction, or if you're playing an all-out coverage...only time I would have to worry bout that stuff is if im trying to score within 1 min and im on my 20 yard line...

Dalton D- If you want to bring 9 guys in the box to try and stop my run game...you can...but my passing game is too good..alot of the sets i run in I also pass out of...You wont be able to cheat against me (meaning you caint play the run more than the pass) I can beat man coverage easily and zone easily...

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

Against me wangie, If you nano me, your gonna get burnt....just lettin ya know...nanos arent good against the rungame... you would have to play gap integrity...I dont have to worry bout if you're sending a blitz from either direction, or if you're playing an all-out coverage...only time I would have to worry bout that stuff is if im trying to score within 1 min and im on my 20 yard line...

Dalton D- If you want to bring 9 guys in the box to try and stop my run game...you can...but my passing game is too good..alot of the sets i run in I also pass out of...You wont be able to cheat against me (meaning you caint play the run more than the pass) I can beat man coverage easily and zone easily...

i hate playing ppl like you...ill take that chance of 9 or 10 in the box if i got the raiders. but not if its cards like i got in c4 which are one of the worst if not the worst teams in madden..i can only think of the browns as a team i thats close and i dont remember there roster. but i still think your limiting your offense..yes you can get the 2, 3,4 yards especially with jacobs but my run game get better as the game goes on and i find away to shut it down when it matters..much harder with the cards though. the run game is just much harder to take it for 6 this year, its just not a running year for madden 11, mybaye if the deep ball wasnt there id be more high on running it.

Cardinals arent a bad team lol(i wish they woulda kept boldin and warner then I would be using them)...they are a good team to play defense with..I use the cards last year and my defense was on point! Adrain wilson = hit stick or pick (6-3)...Cards dline is one of the best..so good at block shedding..It should be hard to run against them..I remember the good ole days, when everyone just try to run OT against me...haha LMAO, it was a long game for those people..

when you run the ball, you shouldnt be looking to take it to the house every play..gaining 2-4 yards a carry is the way to go...the deep ball is good, but its not that good agianst a fast defense...and since I happen to play the raiders like 9 games out of 10, I just wont do it..unless they try to press

Its so easy playing raiders...you dont need fast receivers or fast rbs to be successful and have a dominating offense.. why do u hate playing against people like me??? LMAO...dont worry I would hate to play against me as well...

jordanl95 wrote:

Ravens are the best defense in madden hands down.

ravens seem like they have more speed than raiders idk if its me or not ? but everytime i play vs ravens its pertty tuff!

but i think raiders have game changing speed on offense and defense

i would love to see my boy megatron play wangtang or dalton D ill play u guys also i love a challenge i know wang is on PS3 but dalton what about u?

its so heated in here between u guys been arguing forever lol


to b honest both teams are great okay stop trying to make a team seem better than the other they both have thier different strengths it all depends on ur scheme if u play a scheme with quick pas liek dalton D stick play i dunno i shall say . than raiders favor u if u cause unbumps and separtion raiders again.... raiders D have no flaws besides mcfadden covering his man he gets beat or if ur playing against a quick cornerstrike play and that is why like even because raiders man d it wont matter that cornerstrike is nasty outta ace or anythin formation where u can motion both sides if u run the ball and pas and have ur zone beaters its nasty u cant really play D the way u wanna play.. offense is always at advantage by doing this . this is why megatron is arguing with u guys cause it doesnt matter what defense ur guy can have 100 man coverage (sarcasm) the dude stays in zone all game guys cmon

now the ravens on the other hand are hell to okay there offense is great if ur passing outta Undercenter great team run and pas ... todd heap always beats my raiders a couple plays a game BS lol and so does stallworth belive it or not wierd i know i use raiders to use to use dallas b4 all these updates .. raiders wrs get locked down by ravens Dbs there match so perfectly heyward bey might get loose and ford but they might not catch theball or get a stupid overthrow by campbell its tuff. but yeah they do have there downfalls on offense i dont liek flacco its hard to get open using a pass happy sheme with ravens u have to b really good and have great stick ok im done.

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

Against me wangie, If you nano me, your gonna get burnt....just lettin ya know...nanos arent good against the rungame... you would have to play gap integrity...I dont have to worry bout if you're sending a blitz from either direction, or if you're playing an all-out coverage...only time I would have to worry bout that stuff is if im trying to score within 1 min and im on my 20 yard line...

Dalton D- If you want to bring 9 guys in the box to try and stop my run game...you can...but my passing game is too good..alot of the sets i run in I also pass out of...You wont be able to cheat against me (meaning you caint play the run more than the pass) I can beat man coverage easily and zone easily...

There's a popular nano I use from 46 Normal.. It's the inside blitz nano but I contain my DEs so if you run inside, it's stopped & I am the deep safety covering who I have in man coverage or defending if you pass.. if you run I am there to tackle you if my other guys don't.. Also if you try to cut it outside there are contains..

It sends either the LB or the DT in vs. the pass depending on how I set it up.. it's a great play vs. man and run..

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

Megatron_81 wrote:

wangtangkiki wrote:

LMAO. EXACTLY Dalton... wow.. perfect post again! This is like the 3rd post where you've said exactly what I've wanted to say but couldn't express it.




What stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos Mega?

The faster your guards/tackles, the quicker they can recover to the other side & block a blitzer.

what stat for OL will help avoid 4-man nanos??? haha a thing called slide protection.

What if you didn't know it was coming? What if I send a 5 man nano that can't be slide protected against? You can block people.. and it would help me out..

Against me wangie, If you nano me, your gonna get burnt....just lettin ya know...nanos arent good against the rungame... you would have to play gap integrity...I dont have to worry bout if you're sending a blitz from either direction, or if you're playing an all-out coverage...only time I would have to worry bout that stuff is if im trying to score within 1 min and im on my 20 yard line...

Dalton D- If you want to bring 9 guys in the box to try and stop my run game...you can...but my passing game is too good..alot of the sets i run in I also pass out of...You wont be able to cheat against me (meaning you caint play the run more than the pass) I can beat man coverage easily and zone easily...

There's a popular nano I use from 46 Normal.. It's the inside blitz nano but I contain my DEs so if you run inside, it's stopped & I am the deep safety covering who I have in man coverage or defending if you pass.. if you run I am there to tackle you if my other guys don't.. Also if you try to cut it outside there are contains..

It sends either the LB or the DT in vs. the pass depending on how I set it up.. it's a great play vs. man and run..

lol wow i do the same fricken thing, and i have been for months the a gap or dives are taken care off, and so are tosses and outside running the only problem for run d is the b gap is open but yeah thats were you clean up with the fs.

ill be on tomorrow , i lost a c 4 game game where the guys connect was the worst ever and the laggest game ever, couldnt even make one adjustment on d on at least half the games...and he ran stick and quick hiked...kind of bitter about it so im having a little break from madden lol but ill lab a little tomorrow and play whoever. just add me Dalton Big D

McFadden has 82 mcv.. he has decent speed too.. I don't really worry about any of my CBs when I play w/ Raiders..

If my opponent stays in zone all game, that's when I start to run.. You can tell a HUGE difference between man & zone in the run game.. Zone defenders drop back in yellow zones when the ball is being handed off so you can easily read what gap you want.. man defenders realize once their assignment is blocking, its a run so go for the RB..


The Raiders O is great.. theres just too much speed to cover.. even if you use zone coverage, I can still take a 5 yd stick route for a 30yd gain because of their speed.. you can't do that as well with slower WRs.. They have a fasssst RB.. his carry is going down this week but he's still great.. The Raiders and Ravens D are nearly the same speed.. the Ravens have a few faster LBs but I only have 1 LB on the field at a time.. The Raiders height on D is such an advantage though.

The Ravens O is good. Wow I'm looking at the rosters now & Housh is on a steady decline.. Boldin looks great.. a bit slow but 99 CIT is perfect... Housh now has 95 CIT, down from like 97 or 98.. Housh only has 84 speed / 84 acc.. that's pretty bad.. d@mn.. You better hope your opponents play zone.. WOW.. I thought the Ravens WRs had REALLY high route running.. Housh has 86.. Boldin 91.. now Mason has 97 but I was really talking about Housh/Boldin.. I thought they were 99 RTE.. weird.

Man this Ravens WR core is short and slow.. Stallworth is the only fast one. crazy.. I hate low speed, high acc RBs.. I have a low spd,high acc WR on my team as a return man & I had to take him out because it was nothing special.. he even has 97 agi.. I'm talking about Mardy Gilyard.. I have the Rams in EAFL.. It is really annoying not being able to get to the 20 w/ Gilyard.. I had to put Avery in.. Avery is a big part of my scheme but I don't care.. I will take the chance of an injury on a kick off just to get a TD.. Rams aren't the WORST team but they are down there..