Vick Best Qb ?

vick is playing well there is no disputing it, but he's only played 5games

he beat up on Wash and det....**** 2 great teams there..det lost to Buff and wash lost to ariz...cmon. Philly is not going to the SB and Vick is not going to be MVP

madden world is different...philly is going to be tough now after the update (they were not easy b4!)

vicks a beast.... dont try to talk about strength of schedule.... try to find 1 defense that could contain this dude lol... im not even a philly fan. I wouldnt say that he is better then a manning, brady, or rodgers right now... but if he shows that he can put up those kind of numbers on a premiere defense like the giants ... hes up or above them

giants are a qb's worst nightmare. tuck, usi, pierre-paul, canty.. I would love to see that matchup.

and bears too..

jordanl95 wrote:

vicks a beast.... dont try to talk about strength of schedule.... try to find 1 defense that could contain this dude lol... im not even a philly fan. I wouldnt say that he is better then a manning, brady, or rodgers right now... but if he shows that he can put up those kind of numbers on a premiere defense like the giants ... hes up or above them

Well strength of schedule means a lot though. Im kind of like you, if he does this against a defense that actually plays defense. I might take him more seriously. Till then no

Eagles play the giants this sunday night if Vick plays well and leads them.to another win then what are you idiots going to say about strength of schedule. The giants are the number 1 defense overall number 1 against the pass. With the best pass rush in the nfl

when you play teams like bears, panthers, seahawks, lions, etc of course your Defense would look top notch.

its ok im not a eagles fan either but i cant wait for vick to finally make all the haters disappear,ud think setting an nfl record would get some people giving him credit but i guess not

mega tron please tell me your not serious did you see what peyton did to the giants?

Ya but peyton's also an audible machine out there while vick's not if he puts up anywhere near these numbers against the giants, ill give him credit.




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haseo15

giants defense isnt as young as it used to be,they might slow down vick but i dont think they can stop him

GunfusedX wrote:

mega tron please tell me your not serious did you see what peyton did to the giants?

ok peyton manning is an exception...he can shred any defense..

and btw vick is not peyton manning..

ok...Vick is from my home area here in Hampton Roads Virginia and we all have been watching (local papers etc.) and pulling for him to make a great comeback. he is playing well and i hope he keeps it up...but...to say that he is the "best" because of that 1 awesome game? i can't say that!

~Mili

its not 1 game though he has the highest passer rating...

Freeney & Mathis > Giants d line

beotos wrote:

Freeney & Mathis > Giants d line

nonsense... Freeney and Mathis= run on me all day

How in the hell can you even say that, you people just seem NOT TO GET IT.

Vick has thrown 0 interceptions

Vick has the highest passer rating this year

Vick has the longest pass this year

Vick has the best record this year

Freeny + Mathis = run on me all day? They're are the best pair of rushers in the nfl, yes even passing Woodley and Harrison, Ware and Spencer and Osi and Tuck. So if Freeney and Mathis say run on me all day, what were the Giants last year? With the same pair of fucking defensive ends, Megatron sounds stupid. Giants rush defense was AWFUL. Osi got pulled because he couldn't stop the run, Mathis and Freeney didn't get pulled, Mathis and Freeney stop Halfback, Fullbacks and quarterbacks.

Packers and Colts; 10th and 11th in passing defense

i would say Rivers right now because he has no weapons besides gates but gates is hurt and he cant rely on a running game to take some of the weight off his back

freeney and mathis can stop the run when they want to ..they just choose to play pass 1st..freeney goes outside on nearly every play..if anything the colts dts are lacking

freeney and mathis can stop the run when they want to ..they just choose to play pass 1st..freeney goes outside on nearly every play..if anything the colts dts are lacking

Ant1010 wrote:

How in the hell can you even say that, you people just seem NOT TO GET IT.

Vick has thrown 0 interceptions

Vick has the highest passer rating this year

Vick has the longest pass this year

Vick has the best record this year

Freeny + Mathis = run on me all day? They're are the best pair of rushers in the nfl, yes even passing Woodley and Harrison, Ware and Spencer and Osi and Tuck. So if Freeney and Mathis say run on me all day, what were the Giants last year? With the same pair of fucking defensive ends, Megatron sounds stupid. Giants rush defense was AWFUL. Osi got pulled because he couldn't stop the run, Mathis and Freeney didn't get pulled, Mathis and Freeney stop Halfback, Fullbacks and quarterbacks.

Packers and Colts; 10th and 11th in passing defense

giants = #1 defense.. why???? the Dline... where are the colts??? at the bottom of the food chain... Last season was last season..

who did Texans RB light up opening day of the NFL...The colts... What do teams gameplan against the colts?? Run the ball..Im not arguing that Tuck and Usi are better than Freeney and Mathis as pass rushers..no...and to say they are better than the whole giants dline is absurd..giants have a way better interior and more depth.. (tuck, usi, canty, pierre-paul, kwianika-injured tho, coefield, joseph) and they play better against the run..

Freeney and mathis just run up field all day...giants play with responsibilities..

Here is why you are an idiot

facts for 2011 season..
-giants dline as a whole has registered more than 20 sacks(usi-8, tuck-4)
-giants #1 defense
-giants defensive end usi has more sacks then mathis or freeney this season


-colts dline has registered 15 sacks as a whole (mathins 7, freeney-6,)
-colts have #18 defense

only reason I just put the two stud defensive ends for each team is cause I wanted you to see how good the giants defensive line is as a whole..tuck and usi accouted for 12 sacks out of 20

colts on the other hand..freeny and mathis have accounted for 13 out of 15..

wow that seems kinda lopsided....ANT you are the weakest link, goodbye

Giants number 1 defense just lost to John Kitna, you know the same guy he got blown out by the Packers and the Jags, lol. The same number 1 defense gave up, 30+ to the Cowboys twice, and the Colts, pass heavy teams, where the hell was the great D-line those games, The giants only register all those sacks becaue of that one game against the Bears, stats don't tell the entire story. Last season is last season? If last season is last season, then why the hell this season cant be this season, seeing as though Vick is out playing every QB THIS SEASON. Giants have a better DT core and more D-line depth but Mathis and Freeney have more sacks then Tuck and Osi, and Tuck and Osi had the Bears game.

Talking about some idiot *** weakest link, shut the hell up.

Teams gameplan against the Colts to run because they have Freeney and Mathis, AMAZNG PASS RUSHERS

Teams gameplan to throw to the other side against the Raiders, because they have
ASO

Teams gameplan against the Cowboys, throw the ball deep, because they have no quality safties

Everyone gameplans certain sh!t for a reason. Stop being one eyed and understand Vick is the best QB in the NFL, regardless of what is going on, he has the best record, pass rating he's changing the NFL again, and he ran Kolb out of his job(that he was handed to)

Vick is the mvp.

Later, and my apologies for being sssssuuccchhh a weak link.

Oh and about Adrian Foster, he put up 127 on the Chargers, the 2nd ranked defense in the league, oh and Foster leads the league in rushing as well.

Laterrrrrrrrrrr

I guess we are not seeing eye to eye..maybe u put that joint down u'd see my point

I could care less bout vick..one season does not make him the best qb

I dont see a point in arguing to people who dont even know the names of players

who is adrian foster? <what your combining running backs or something?

Adrian peterson + Arian Foster = adrian foster

You agreed with me when I said the giants have the better overall D-line then the colts < that was my only point I was trying to make.. thanks dummy

No he is not the best QB in the league.

He is playing well, I will give him that but he is not in the same boat as Manning & Brady.Or even Brees.

He is playing well enough to maybe be talked about with Rodgers and Rivers but I would still put him below them 2.

IF you want to pull a name card, then i'll just say the leading rusher in the NFL put up 127 on the 2nd ranked defense.

Now all you are saying Vick isn't the best QB after 1 season and isnt better then Manning and them. NO One said Vick is the BEST QB. HE is the best QB this season.

ant keeps it 100. keep on smoking those joints.